Global Warming is over.

[ForcedFirebird]

still waiting on an answer on how population rise directly correlates with carbon output, starting around 1950.

1950, we (humans) ran leaded gasoline in transport. In fact, I remember having to say "unleaded", and you were NOT allowed to touch the pump. Self service gasoline is relatively new. Who here remembers the odd and even license plate gas rations?

[decay]

still waiting on an answer on how population rise directly correlates with carbon output, starting around 1950.

[ForcedFirebird]

welcome to P&R. i'm happy to discuss, comment on, and encourage people's projects in other sections of the forums, but we don't wear gloves here.

This. P&R has gone on for ages here. As long as everyone leaves this conversation here and go back to the other sections, to help each other out on our e30's, all is good.

It's actually very healthy to hear both sides IMO. That's why I read Russian Times, BBC, Sky News, CNN and Fox, all of them. I want to hear current events from different facets, than make my own educated decisions.

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See there you go. I was trying to be nice with an actual question. And you had be a fuck. I'm not a gen z by the way. Also what branch did you serve in?

and here you are presenting me as the asshole when you set the bait that pissed me off when i was trying to have a rational discussion.

army. 12B. 2nd infantry out of Ft Lewis but wound up attached to marine 2-mef in anbar province on my deploy. believe that was fun.

i don't care how old you are, you're still a dumbfuck until you can start contributing to this conversation in a useful fashion.

welcome to P&R. i'm happy to discuss, comment on, and encourage people's projects in other sections of the forums, but we don't wear gloves here.

i asked you a question first. you answer first.

[ForcedFirebird]

Oh, and kinda off topic, but the college graduates today at calling FOR socialism. "Capitalism is wrong, dead, illogical, immoral" they post on Twitter with their Apple phone etc.

The hypocrisy in today's world is shining like a bright beacon.

[It's Soda Not Pop]

It's Soda Not Pop water on the duck.

Noob in the fact that you haven't been here and learnt the members. Most of us "old dudes” doesn't necessarily reflect calendar age. He was using gen Z to correlate.

I have always been right leaning central. I'm a good ol boy who like to hunt, fish, barbecue, farm etc, but also came up in gen x so was there for the birth of internet, PC's and the rest of this useless tech. (Useless as we don't "need it to survive). Sh!t, I took AP BASIC in 1993, and PASCAL in 1994 lol, schools were moving so slow, my home PC was already a 486sx. School PCs were Commodore that didn't even have a HDD. You had to load DOS on the RAM first.

I'm not inclined to think humans have nearly as much effect on global climate as they/we think.

If any of the "chicken little's" of the 1% calling for climate crisis we're truly commited...wouldn't be taking private jets to climate summits. It's an oxymoron. They would be out in the wilderness living off nature, you know, like us rural conservatives rofl

We are in a similar boat my friend. I was raised by my grandparents.

[ForcedFirebird]

It's Soda Not Pop water on the duck.

Noob in the fact that you haven't been here and learnt the members. Most of us "old dudes” doesn't necessarily reflect calendar age. He was using gen Z to correlate.

I have always been right leaning central. I'm a good ol boy who like to hunt, fish, barbecue, farm etc, but also came up in gen x so was there for the birth of internet, PC's and the rest of this useless tech. (Useless as we don't "need it to survive). Sh!t, I took AP BASIC in 1993, and PASCAL in 1994 lol, schools were moving so slow, my home PC was already a 486sx. School PCs were Commodore that didn't even have a HDD. You had to load DOS on the RAM first.

I'm not inclined to think humans have nearly as much effect on global climate as they/we think.

If any of the "chicken little's" of the 1% calling for climate crisis we're truly commited...wouldn't be taking private jets to climate summits. It's an oxymoron. They would be out in the wilderness living off nature, you know, like us rural conservatives rofl

[It's Soda Not Pop]

i'm not angry about anything, i just went to school about it.

did you click either of the links in the post you just quoted, or are you just running your fucking mouth?

i didn't want to agree with it, but you're making yourself an excellent argument about how ForcedFirebird says that GenZ is largely a generation of dumbshits.

See there you go. I was trying to be nice with an actual question. And you had be a fuck. I'm not a gen z by the way. Also what branch did you serve in?

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Let me ask a question. Why is it that if me or others don't believe that the world is ending, some people who do believe in GW lose their minds and get angry? I do believe that we humans can do damage to the environment. I just don't believe in this world coming to end Global warming nonsense. It changes every decade. Maybe I'm wrong or maybe you're wrong. But wouldn't you rather me be right than you? Not joking this time.

i'm not angry about anything, i just went to school about it.

did you click either of the links in the post you just quoted, or are you just running your fucking mouth?

i didn't want to agree with it, but you're making yourself an excellent argument about how ForcedFirebird says that GenZ is largely a generation of dumbshits.

[It's Soda Not Pop]

i'm doing my best to stay civil in P&R (as i haven't in the past) so one more data-driven argument from me.

first graph here is human-caused carbon emissions https://www.c2es.org/content/international-emissions/

second graph is population growth by country over the same timeframe https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/p...SA~BRA~IRN~ZAF

correlation is not causation, but it's interesting to me that both have the shit hitting the fan right around 1950, and the two countries i mentioned...

Let me ask a question. Why is it that if me or others don't believe that the world is ending, some people who do believe in GW lose their minds and get angry? I do believe that we humans can do damage to the environment. I just don't believe in this world coming to end Global warming nonsense. It changes every decade. Maybe I'm wrong or maybe you're wrong. But wouldn't you rather me be right than you? Not joking this time.

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Ha Ha Ha. Whatever keyboard badass. Wear your aluminum hat. The sky is falling. LMFAO

if you'd joined this forum before this year you'd know i'm a combat veteran, not the kind of warrior you're suggesting. go back to working on your car and think about something useful to contribute to the conversation, noob.

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i'm doing my best to stay civil in P&R (as i haven't in the past) so one more data-driven argument from me.

first graph here is human-caused carbon emissions https://www.c2es.org/content/international-emissions/

second graph is population growth by country over the same timeframe https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/p...SA~BRA~IRN~ZAF

correlation is not causation, but it's interesting to me that both have the shit hitting the fan right around 1950, and the two countries i mentioned...

[It's Soda Not Pop]

studied, past tense, and what you're positing here is that education is of no value

you're not debating, you just reposted something you found from google image search. a debate involves a little more nuance than that, so try harder if you want to have one. there's publicly available data on the frequency of extreme weather events from NOAA

i invite you to look at the trend over the past 30 years presented by that organization, run by actual scientists with doctorates in the field (which is not me, i just used the rest of my GI Bill to get a 2nd bachelor's degree)

also, that joke wasn't funny when matt and trey made it 15 years ago, and you're not funny for reposting it

Ha Ha Ha. Whatever keyboard badass. Wear your aluminum hat. The sky is falling. LMFAO

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Yup.

People forget too that the earth releases carbon naturally on a scale that is hard to comprehend.

*sigh* i haven't, as evidenced by sharing that link about the krakatoa event that caused a couple years of winter. not caused by humans, and nothing anyone could have done about it.

why do you think that means human activity couldn't be a contributing factor?

[MrBurgundy]

Much smaller. Didn't Hunga Tonga event release something like a year's worth of carbon in 12 hours?

Yup.

People forget too that the earth releases carbon naturally on a scale that is hard to comprehend.