Trump Thread 2.0

[roguetoaster]

I am not even going to start with anything in depth, safe to say over the last 24 months, I have lost my ass in many ways. I am still getting by but inflation is devouring what little liquid savings I still have, and the markets are taking the rest with it. I am not going to get into the missteps this admin seems to make on a near daily basis that we are all collectively paying for and will continue to for years to come.

To you more left leaning types, please some how explain to me how this is now better!!!

It's not better now, but it's not like any administration really controls pricing, markets, or world events.

Today is built on years/decades of policy in the past, and no one is free of blame for failures or can take sole credit for any type of recovery.

The events of today may also be the corporate/market response to increased wages and anticipation of future wage increases/employee costs while still serving the ever important profit margin/profit projection.

There's no one thing we can point at as the causation or the solution, but we do know that our current system (political and economic) is not effective at serving us.

How can we fix it? Vote all ideologues out, vote all of the old guard out, vote in those who are willing to hear input from all sides and make thoughtful policy. Although likely impossible, dismantle speculative investments and trading. Invest for a longer term and allow companies to take a loss in a year or two in order to grow in ten without compromising their ability to acquire credit. Ban crypto, NFTs, and the like. Revoke insane corporate tax credits, nonprofit statuses for special interests, prohibit large scale public subsidizing of private ventures. Hold CEOs criminally liable for corporate wrongdoing. Fix gerrymandering. Create term limits everywhere, limit the campaign season, prevent private, screened, or pooled donations. Make voting mandatory. Completely overhaul our healthcare system to make sure that all children, mothers, and families are completely covered from preventive care onward. House all of those in need. Rethink our current incarceration incentivizing prosecution system to allow people to recover from errors rather than condemning them to the scrap heap of humanity. Welcome immigrants, educate them, recognize their value. Provide basic public college degree programs for free to all those who test in, provide real vocational certification programs for all who want them for free.

The list goes on and on and on, and I don't think any of it has been fixed in my 34 years here.

Edit:

Something is better now, US service personnel are now no longer dying in a nation we couldn't convert to a western standard ever, no matter what we did.

[mrsleeve]

I am not even going to start with anything in depth, safe to say over the last 24 months, I have lost my ass in many ways. I am still getting by but inflation is devouring what little liquid savings I still have, and the markets are taking the rest with it. I am not going to get into the missteps this admin seems to make on a near daily basis that we are all collectively paying for and will continue to for years to come.

To you more left leaning types, please some how explain to me how this is now better!!!

[2mAn]

Hey Corporations are people too

[MrBurgundy]

Our government serves corporations and not the people.

America is a corporate oligarchy

[2mAn]

All politicians are giant pieces of sh*t... WAKE UP.

facts.

a third option is more and more necessary and until we have one it’s always “anybody but ....”

[roguetoaster]

It's like we took everything Washington said in his farewell and absolutely did the opposite for the majority of the following 226 years.

[MrBurgundy]

^that’s the honest truth right there.

[Schnitzer318is]

All politicians are giant pieces of sh*t. Every admin I live through... is the worst one I've lived through. They all (blue and red) want to shrink the middle class to keep the rich, rich.... and the poors, poor. They don't want any in between. Biden is a POS, Trump was a POS, Obama was a POS, etc. Until we stop fighting each other and vote the motherf*ckers out... we're boned. If you are Dem idealistic... vote against the Dem incumbent with another one. If you are Rep idealistic... vote against the Rep incumbent with another one. But this is all just a pipe dream... people like thinking everything will be fine with minimal effort, and it's far easier to buy the lie and fight amongst ourselves than realize we have been fed, and bought, a lie. Dems lied to us. Reps lied to us. I have voted for both. It's two heads of the same monster. If you want to save the Republic, vote independent, or against the incumbent.

/rant sorry, been drinking. Tired of having to home school because our school district sucks (even though prop taxes have doubled in 4 years), tired of people thinking covid is the end of the world, tired of people thinking masks are evil and useless, tired of both parties spending us into oblivion, and most of all, tired of neighbors arguing that their chosen rich elites are better than the other's chosen rich elites. WAKE UP.

[MrBurgundy]

Hey man, as long as he's out of office it's worth the cost!


Everything is worse now. It's honestly amazing how fucked things have gotten in such a short amount of time. Honestly, hats off to Brandon.

Everything two years ago was Trump's fault, now nothing is the presidents fault. It's cringe as fuck.

Diehard libs are going to come here and express how everything is not Biden's fault and gaslight themselves into believing that things are even better LOL.

I'm pretty sure some people here have voiced that- I don't even know what kind of mental hoops you'd have to make to come to that conclusion.

[ForcedFirebird]

This thread aged well. How's buyer remorse on Brandon?

Orange man was a narcissistic mean tweeter, but not sure about the rest of you, I actually miss 2020. The funny memes and clips were worth the price of fuel, meat, supplies, and I am sure glad my kids are 16yr-23yr, or I'd be in a world of hurt - in 2007 when registering here, had three kids in diapers and still 2.5 on formula. My house cost $260k and in 2004. We could have covered our house in 2.5yr wages at the time. If we were top purchase today the same house is worth $540, which puts property tax (alone) at $500+/mo, borrowing $.5m with 20% down, taxes and insurance puts you at about $4k/mo. That's $25/hr just going to your mortgage. If you make $50/hr, uncle Sam takes $16, 1hr round trip to work is gonna hit you for $640/mo in fuel alone.

I can't get brake cleaner, m20 oil pump bearings, crank bearings in bulk is non-existent, pistons have increased 100% in TWO YEARS, oil has almost doubled, everything is 100% more. 8.5% inflation my a$$.

I was going through old filing cabinets and getting rid of paperwork. In 2016 I was paying $4.30 per liner foot of 1.75" .120" wall tubing for roll cages. Yesterday, I paid $14.75 per linear foot.

Everyone NEEDS to be making 25-100% more money now, than they did with sun tan man.

[nando]

I doubt it's a stunt, because he's just been made a complete fool.

74 and obese, his future isn't exactly clear. Never was a Biden fan, but he was honorable and IMO too respectable in the way he approached Trump's turn for the worse today; if the shoe was on the other foot, Trump would've called Biden a loser and wished his family got it too.

I thought that too, but I think Biden has taken the right tack. After thinking about this and reading a bit more, I definitely don't think this is a hoax (he's in the freaking hospital), but I don't see much upside for Trump.

Faux News is already running stories complaining about the left politicizing this, but it was Trump who made COVID-19 political in the first place. Biden taking the high road isn't going to hurt him one bit.

Honestly, I see this as giving Trump an out, an excuse for losing in potentially a landslide, that he won't have to blame on voting fraud that even if it happened, would have been caused by him in the first place. That to me, is potentially a relief.

There's nothing Trump likes more than an excuse for failing, especially a faceless virus that he blames on the Chinese and not his own incompetence.

[phillipj]

I doubt it's a stunt, because he's just been made a complete fool.

74 and obese, his future isn't exactly clear. Never was a Biden fan, but he was honorable and IMO too respectable in the way he approached Trump's turn for the worse today; if the shoe was on the other foot, Trump would've called Biden a loser and wished his family got it too.

[bmwman91]

Yeah, things are so bizzarro world that I give the odds of "Trump gets COVID" being a political stunt >50%. The BS electioneering has basically been going non-stop since 2016, and I really hope that the new normal is not for both parties to be in mega campaign mode 24/7/356 from now on. The stupidity is painful.

[nando]

Except he's been trying to play up Biden as "weak" for months. Using the sympathy card because he got sick (due to his own incompetence in fact), doesn't exactly play to that theme very well.

Unless something horrible happens, I don't see this changing much. His fans are basically living in an alternative universe, nothing is ever going to change their minds. I mean, Herman Cain contracted COVID from his stupid rally and died months ago - it didn't make any difference.

[Motheye99]

But did he?...

I was thinking the same thing, he's goona survive and this I can see this as a political win. Further useful by keeping his name in the news on something sympathetic and not white supremacy