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  • Roland H
    R3V Elite
    • Mar 2009
    • 4480

    #4216
    Originally posted by Bimmerman325i
    What about Kromer Krafts?
    Custom built to your needs (unless you buy new). You can't exactly compare them to off-the-shelf headers.

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    • fsmtnbiker
      Mod Crazy
      • Feb 2011
      • 617

      #4217
      Yeah, the best torque curves I've ever seen come from cars with KK headers but I have no direct experience with them. They seem to have figured out primary sizing and length pretty well, their product is really top-notch on power and power delivery... But at a high price and they are not known for being extremely durable.

      I am starting to explore other options for revving the S52 higher at this point... The harmonics in the stock crank are very destructive. I'm thinking the S54 crank could be an option if you wanted to stick with the S52 head/block. Gotta do a little more research. Obviously swapping an S54 in is the best answer, but I'm looking at all these shiny parts I have and I know that pretty much all of them would not transfer to an S54 swap.

      Not to mention, the latest fastrack proposal with the possibility of having a VERY competitive classing for the E36 M3 again makes me really want to build to that ruleset. If that proposal goes through, an E36 could absolutely win a national championship in the new class.
      Chris
      97 M3
      01 325
      Weston Auto Gallery

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      • Bimmerman325i
        R3V OG
        • Dec 2007
        • 6854

        #4218
        Originally posted by fsmtnbiker
        Yeah, the best torque curves I've ever seen come from cars with KK headers but I have no direct experience with them. They seem to have figured out primary sizing and length pretty well, their product is really top-notch on power and power delivery... But at a high price and they are not known for being extremely durable.

        I am starting to explore other options for revving the S52 higher at this point... The harmonics in the stock crank are very destructive. I'm thinking the S54 crank could be an option if you wanted to stick with the S52 head/block. Gotta do a little more research. Obviously swapping an S54 in is the best answer, but I'm looking at all these shiny parts I have and I know that pretty much all of them would not transfer to an S54 swap.

        Not to mention, the latest fastrack proposal with the possibility of having a VERY competitive classing for the E36 M3 again makes me really want to build to that ruleset. If that proposal goes through, an E36 could absolutely win a national championship in the new class.
        No kidding. It's making me want to build my car too.

        Would an S52 with stock flywheel and pullies have the same harmonic issues? I know on subarus they strongly recommend either pullies or flywheel due to crank harmonic issues.

        What kind of work needs to be done to fit an S54 crank in an S50/2?

        Alternatively, what about using an S50 or M52 and boring it to 3.2L?
        2017 Chevrolet SS, 6MT
        95 M3/2/5 (S54 and Mk60 DSC, CARB legal, Build Thread)
        98 M3/4/5 (stock)

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        • fsmtnbiker
          Mod Crazy
          • Feb 2011
          • 617

          #4219
          One of the suggestions is an aftermarket crank damper. The stock flywheel doesn't do any real harmonic damping aside from just being a very large mass.

          I don't know if there is enough room to bore to a 3.2 in an M52 block. I suspect you'd end up with a 3.0 at best, but I never have really looked into it. In theory you could create a pretty oversquare engine and have a very high-revving motor without so much tendency for damage.

          I know of one car with the S54 crank in an S50 or 52 bottom end. I need to talk more with the guy and see how much it really took to make it happen.
          Chris
          97 M3
          01 325
          Weston Auto Gallery

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          • Cloudbase
            E30 Mastermind
            • Nov 2010
            • 1795

            #4220
            Originally posted by blefevre
            That older guy at HPR had 338k and the engine looked brand new still. But he works at a shop, that's cheating.
            The black one! It looked good for that many miles. That was the same guy that wanted me to part out my M Coupe so he could have a proper 5 lug rear end!
            JOY IS AN E30...

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            • Sloppopotamus
              Member
              • Mar 2011
              • 62

              #4221


              I kept forgetting to take a picture. this is from my window and on my phone so its crappy for now. Have parts for a full tune up coming so nothing to major going on right now

              edit: not my license plate so i'm not worried that its showing

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              • blefevre
                R3V Elite
                • Dec 2008
                • 4287

                #4222
                Originally posted by Cloudbase
                The black one! It looked good for that many miles. That was the same guy that wanted me to part out my M Coupe so he could have a proper 5 lug rear end!
                Yep! It was a nice car, the seats had covers but the rest looked new. Mason strut bar, Z3 rack, M3 sway links, light weight flywheel, M coupe diff cover, euroweaves, various things he showed me.

                - E30, DSM, Golf R, Mazda 3 Skyactiv

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                • blefevre
                  R3V Elite
                  • Dec 2008
                  • 4287

                  #4223
                  Originally posted by Sloppopotamus


                  I kept forgetting to take a picture. this is from my window and on my phone so its crappy for now. Have parts for a full tune up coming so nothing to major going on right now

                  edit: not my license plate so i'm not worried that its showing
                  Cool, cool! Come to a meet sometime.

                  - E30, DSM, Golf R, Mazda 3 Skyactiv

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                  • Bimmerman325i
                    R3V OG
                    • Dec 2007
                    • 6854

                    #4224
                    Originally posted by blefevre
                    Yep! It was a nice car, the seats had covers but the rest looked new. Mason strut bar, Z3 rack, M3 sway links, light weight flywheel, M coupe diff cover, euroweaves, various things he showed me.
                    Too bad the guy was an asshat.
                    2017 Chevrolet SS, 6MT
                    95 M3/2/5 (S54 and Mk60 DSC, CARB legal, Build Thread)
                    98 M3/4/5 (stock)

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                    • Sloppopotamus
                      Member
                      • Mar 2011
                      • 62

                      #4225
                      Originally posted by blefevre
                      Cool, cool! Come to a meet sometime.
                      maybe once I get the bottom lip deal under the diving board replaced. Previous owner said it got hit by a tire on the freeway so its cracked and has no fogs. Really want to replace it and get the car to run better than it is

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                      • Bimmerman325i
                        R3V OG
                        • Dec 2007
                        • 6854

                        #4226
                        Originally posted by Sloppopotamus
                        maybe once I get the bottom lip deal under the diving board replaced. Previous owner said it got hit by a tire on the freeway so its cracked and has no fogs. Really want to replace it and get the car to run better than it is
                        Psh. My E30 had a giant rusty dent in the door and door sill, bent front valence, no lip, and a cracked hood. Didn't stop me. We really don't care about aesthetics, we like meeting and chilling with people.
                        2017 Chevrolet SS, 6MT
                        95 M3/2/5 (S54 and Mk60 DSC, CARB legal, Build Thread)
                        98 M3/4/5 (stock)

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                        • wh00sh
                          Member
                          • Dec 2010
                          • 68

                          #4227
                          Originally posted by Sloppopotamus
                          maybe once I get the bottom lip deal under the diving board replaced. Previous owner said it got hit by a tire on the freeway so its cracked and has no fogs. Really want to replace it and get the car to run better than it is
                          A missing front lip should be the last thing you worry about. I haven't made it to a meet yet b/c my car is not yet reliable. I'll definitely be coming out once I've got it squared away mechanically though.
                          '88 iX Money Pit/Labor of Love

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                          • Sloppopotamus
                            Member
                            • Mar 2011
                            • 62

                            #4228
                            eh i'm sure ill be at a meet up before I fix them just saying I would like to

                            My car runs though...
                            Last edited by Sloppopotamus; 03-23-2011, 06:51 AM.

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                            • blefevre
                              R3V Elite
                              • Dec 2008
                              • 4287

                              #4229
                              Yeah, we aren't audi guys. We just chill out and chat. We don't care what the cars look like.

                              - E30, DSM, Golf R, Mazda 3 Skyactiv

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                              • wh00sh
                                Member
                                • Dec 2010
                                • 68

                                #4230
                                My car runs too, but only when it feels like doing so. :)
                                '88 iX Money Pit/Labor of Love

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