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  • nando
    Moderator
    • Nov 2003
    • 34827

    #286
    Originally posted by JGood
    Interesting. You'd think with today's precision manufacturing processes, there wouldn't be that much of a variance anymore. That's a 10% difference...
    BMW dyno's every car that leaves their production line - they reject the ones that are lower than spec, but some of them end up coming out higher. I bet ones that are significantly stronger stock are fairly rare though.

    weren't S54s hand built?
    Last edited by nando; 04-14-2016, 08:27 AM.
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    • digger
      R3V Elite
      • Nov 2005
      • 5909

      #287
      there aren't strong outliers, there are normal ones proabbly fit within a normal distribution of sorts, but there are weak ones which simply have issues with one of the many complex systems. alot can happen in a few years
      89 E30 325is Lachs Silber - currently M20B31, M20B33 in the works, stroked to the hilt...

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      • JGood
        R3V OG
        • Jan 2004
        • 7959

        #288
        Originally posted by nando
        BMW dyno's every car that leaves their production line - they reject the ones that are lower than spec, but some of them end up coming out higher. I bet ones that are significantly stronger stock are fairly rare though.

        weren't S54s hand built?

        Originally posted by ForcedFirebird
        Not uncommon at all, specially when you get into higher HP/L. Also, these engines aren't that "new" anymore, the s54 is what 17yrs old already, with the youngest ones at 8yrs or so? They might be a bit closer if they were all tested at low mileage.

        I was talking about the s65 dyno. But, yeah, points taken.
        Last edited by JGood; 04-14-2016, 03:12 PM.
        85 325e m60b44 6 speed / 89 535i
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        • 328ijunkie
          Forum Sponsor
          • May 2007
          • 3961

          #289
          Few good updates
          4/19/16
          Tuned a schrick cam S52 track car. Has 3.5" MAF and 24lb injectors. Headers to stock midpipe. Running OBD1. Unnamed tuners off the shelf chip vs MMW dyno tuning :P


          Tuned a Turbo M50 E30 We OBD2 converted. running HX35 15psi tapering to 12 off WG spring, 140MLS 93oct. S50 cams


          Tuned another S54 E36. Stock plenum, ZM3 airbox, CPI headers, nice dual all the way back exhaust

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          • The Dark Side of Will
            R3VLimited
            • Jun 2010
            • 2796

            #290
            Originally posted by 328ijunkie
            Few good updates
            4/19/16
            Tuned a schrick cam S52 track car. Has 3.5" MAF and 24lb injectors. Headers to stock midpipe. Running OBD1. Unnamed tuners off the shelf chip vs MMW dyno tuning :P
            Is the stock midpipe (assuming E36) really that restrictive?
            I've heard of cam + header + supporting mods S52's hitting 280 to the wheels.

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            • 328ijunkie
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              • May 2007
              • 3961

              #291
              Originally posted by The Dark Side of Will
              Is the stock midpipe (assuming E36) really that restrictive?
              I've heard of cam + header + supporting mods S52's hitting 280 to the wheels.
              Obd2 midpipes aren't too bad. OBD1 ones are shit.

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              • 2mAn
                Moderator
                • Aug 2010
                • 20062

                #292
                Originally posted by 328ijunkie
                Obd2 midpipes aren't too bad. OBD1 ones are shit.
                What makes you say that? Any pics to compare?

                also, What cams does that car have?
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                • Bimmerman325i
                  R3V OG
                  • Dec 2007
                  • 6854

                  #293
                  Originally posted by 2mAn
                  What makes you say that? Any pics to compare?

                  also, What cams does that car have?


                  Note the necking down from 2-1-2 on the OBD1 pipe. That area chokes down to a very small diameter with a thick wall.
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                  95 M3/2/5 (S54 and Mk60 DSC, CARB legal, Build Thread)
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                  • 328ijunkie
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                    • May 2007
                    • 3961

                    #294
                    Originally posted by 2mAn
                    What makes you say that? Any pics to compare?

                    also, What cams does that car have?
                    Schrick street
                    Originally posted by Bimmerman325i


                    Note the necking down from 2-1-2 on the OBD1 pipe. That area chokes down to a very small diameter with a thick wall.
                    Your pic is dead

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                    • 2mAn
                      Moderator
                      • Aug 2010
                      • 20062

                      #295
                      Thanks for the pic and the answers. Im getting my game plan ready for a full exhaust system, and what I see is that the separate piping going into the cat makes a big difference.
                      Simon
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                      • Bimmerman325i
                        R3V OG
                        • Dec 2007
                        • 6854

                        #296
                        Originally posted by 328ijunkie
                        Your pic is dead
                        Weird, I don't see a dead image.
                        2017 Chevrolet SS, 6MT
                        95 M3/2/5 (S54 and Mk60 DSC, CARB legal, Build Thread)
                        98 M3/4/5 (stock)

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                        • digger
                          R3V Elite
                          • Nov 2005
                          • 5909

                          #297
                          Look at the different location of the merge/crossover....IMO that's more important than pipe size. Then They split it again 8" later wtf its just a weird x-pipe in effect

                          A short length of small piping isnt as restrictive as people think
                          Last edited by digger; 09-10-2016, 06:36 PM.
                          89 E30 325is Lachs Silber - currently M20B31, M20B33 in the works, stroked to the hilt...

                          new build thread http://www.r3vlimited.com/board/showthread.php?t=317505

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                          • The Dark Side of Will
                            R3VLimited
                            • Jun 2010
                            • 2796

                            #298
                            The location of the secondary merge appears to have a BIG effect on S54 power output.

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                            • digger
                              R3V Elite
                              • Nov 2005
                              • 5909

                              #299
                              Originally posted by The Dark Side of Will
                              The location of the secondary merge appears to have a BIG effect on all inline6 power output.
                              fixed
                              89 E30 325is Lachs Silber - currently M20B31, M20B33 in the works, stroked to the hilt...

                              new build thread http://www.r3vlimited.com/board/showthread.php?t=317505

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                              • 328ijunkie
                                Forum Sponsor
                                • May 2007
                                • 3961

                                #300
                                4/27/16
                                E46 M3 VF SC 6psi IC kit. VF Tuned vs Our retune. VF apparently doesnt see the need to alter factory vanos maps as well as overfueling like hell. Also BOV or something is freaking out up top. Boost falls off at ~7500.

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