Anyone have a built stroker motor that I could put in my 1988 325iS. Not looking to spend the $/time sourcing all the parts. Saw a 3.1 Stroker built ready to go on the FB forums in the summer for a very good price, sold immediately and still kicking myself. Just wanted to see what's out there
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Originally posted by Lars30 View PostAnyone have a built stroker motor that I could put in my 1988 325iS. Not looking to spend the $/time sourcing all the parts. Saw a 3.1 Stroker built ready to go on the FB forums in the summer for a very good price, sold immediately and still kicking myself. Just wanted to see what's out there
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Originally posted by zaq123 View Post
Unless reputable builder, Id be concerned how it was built. I'm sure you won't get any warranty or a warranty that actually will be honoured. My recommendation is to DIY if you have the ability. It's not that complicated actually and plenty of info on the forum. 3.1 is what you want? I'd go for 2.9 with 10:1 Mahle pistons. If your head/block is ok, you will save a lot just reusing those as well. Source parts, find a machine shop and once parts are ready, it's pretty straight forward process. You can build one at around $4k+ budget using quality parts and your existing engine. Pistons, cam, rockers and the actual machine shop work being the largest part of the budget. To buy good quality built stroker, I'd expect to see double that if not more.
I've done several 9.4:1 2.7s with mild cam, and one 10.5:1 3.1 with head work. The 3.1 was very expensive to build, and anything similar you'd actually want to put in your car isn't going to be cheap, even if its secondhand. For example, the one "cheap" 3.1L m20 that sold a few years ago ended up being a paperweight and had to be reworked from top to bottom due to several aspects of the initial build being done incorrectly, parts chosen poorly, etc etc. Most of the 3+L M20s built in the past 10+yrs didn't use pistons with the correct dome shape so they detonated to the high heavens and didn't make any substantial power once in the car.
You have the 4-6K ~175whp M20 club which is typically a 2.7-2.8 with a mild cam and no head work. To do a nice 2.7 or 2.8 is relatively simple for most machine shops minus the required deck cutting, and you can use your existing pistons, although it's definitely worth going 84.5mm while the pistons are available, which they are (11251714810).
As soon as you want to shoot for 200whp+ things get very expensive, as you're now considering head work, custom pistons, pricier valvetrain, ITBs, headers, etc etc. It's a huge cost that requires additional $$ put into most other ancillary systems to support it, in addition to time. You can count the guys who know what they're doing with M20 headwork on one hand so they're booked far out. If you're loaded with time and $$, it can make for a great experience. If you're not, I wouldn't go this route.
Be very cautious buying a cheap used stroker M20, should you find one.
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Originally posted by MR 325 View PostThere's these guys called BimmerHeads, they build stroker M20 engines and sell the parts to build them too! ;)Side note, thanks for the quick shipping on the package to Philly. After several years and a cross-country move, I'm just about ready to start assembling my engine!
OP: When I was getting ready to pull the trigger on some stock 84.5mm pistons, I was cautioned about going for a 3.xL m20. I already had most of the parts to make a 2.7i and I was wondering if it made sense to spend the money to go bigger. As others have stated, the stock head and intake are a major restriction for a large displacement m20. So you either need significant work so that it'll flow well, or you end up spending significantly more money with marginally more power than you'd get from a 2.7/2.8/2.9. I plan to turbo my 2.7i and then build an NA 10:1 2.9L with the engine that's in the car so I have a replacement if/when I need it. (or for the next e30)Last edited by McGyver; 01-25-2025, 12:16 PM.sigpic
1987 - 325i Convertible Delphin Auto [SOLD], 325i Convertible Delphin Manual [SOLD]
1989 - 325i Convertible Bronzit m30b35 swapped [SCRAPPED], 325i Sedan Alpine Auto[DD]
1991 - 325i Coupe Laguna Manual [Project], 535i Sedan Alpine [SCRAPPED]
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Originally posted by strickland View PostI have wondered about upgrading air flow on the M20. Many have said that the stock airbox performance cannot be improved with a cone air filter.
for a total n00b (me) — what does it take to increase the intake & exhaust manifolds? Just curious.
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Originally posted by strickland View PostI have wondered about upgrading air flow on the M20. Many have said that the stock airbox performance cannot be improved with a cone air filter.
for a total n00b (me) — what does it take to increase the intake & exhaust manifolds? Just curious.
89 E30 325is Lachs Silber - currently M20B31, M20B33 in the works, stroked to the hilt...
new build thread http://www.r3vlimited.com/board/showthread.php?t=317505
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Originally posted by MR 325 View PostThere's these guys called BimmerHeads, they build stroker M20 engines and sell the parts to build them too! ;)
Originally posted by SpasticDwarf;n6449866Honestly I built it just to have a place to sit and listen to Hotline Bling on repeat.
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Originally posted by Lars30 View PostAnyone have a built stroker motor that I could put in my 1988 325iS. Not looking to spend the $/time sourcing all the parts. Saw a 3.1 Stroker built ready to go on the FB forums in the summer for a very good price, sold immediately and still kicking myself. Just wanted to see what's out there
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Originally posted by strickland View PostI have wondered about upgrading air flow on the M20. Many have said that the stock airbox performance cannot be improved with a cone air filter.
for a total n00b (me) — what does it take to increase the intake & exhaust manifolds? Just curious.
The AFM is the first restrictor, followed by the intake manifold (if you're r3vving it high enough to matter) and then the whole exhaust system is the next bottleneck...
ITBs and straight pipes out the hood ftw. THEN some port work starts to make real sense...
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