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  • Northern
    R3V Elite
    • Nov 2010
    • 5068

    #1

    Northern's R56 Mini Cooper S

    My Wife has wanted a mini for at least a year at this point, and I've always been a little fond of the first/second gen reboot Minis. We looked at one rusty R52 before I told her I'd be interested if we could find a manual Cooper S, hoping to find a first gen/supercharged car.

    Fast forward 6 months of halfassedly browsing kijiji/FB marketplace and she sends me a 2008 MCS (Pre-LCI R56).
    We go test drive it and it drives nice, has a decent amount of power but there are dozens of trim bits broken, the engine (N14B16) has the chain/tensioner death rattle, and there's at least one decent rust bubble on each panel. The dealer thinks it's made of gold and has no interest of budging on price. So we move on and make a pact to not buy what is essentially a fourth vehicle.

    While we were looking at that 2008 R56, I sent my wife another ad from a 2012 LCI car ~300KM away on Prince Edward Island almost as an "If this were closer and we could just spend another $1500, I think this would be the one we'd want" Two days after we agree we don't need one, she texts me out of the blue and told me she had been negotiating with this dealer and was down to drive up this weekend and pick it up. Long story short, that's what we did last Friday night.


    The car:
    2012 Mini Cooper S (R56 LCI)
    Production Date: 2011-11-04
    160 000 KM
    Eclipse Grey Metallic (B24) on Carbon Black
    Slicktop.
    6 speed manual
    N18B16 - Turbo, Dual Vanos/Valvetronic
    R108 Multi-Spoke Wheels ( 17x7 ET48 @ 22.9 lbs )

    Options List:
    1CA Selection Cop Relevant Vehicles Selektion Cop Relevanter Fahrzeuge
    210 Dynamic Stability Control (dsc) Dynamische Stab. Control (dsc)
    249 Multi-function For Steering Wheel Multifunktion Fuer Lenkrad
    255 Sports Leather Steering Wheel Sport-lederlenkrad
    258 Runflat Tyres Bereifung Mit Notlaufeigenschaften
    2P6 Light Alloy Wheels Rip Spoke Lm Raeder Rip Spoke
    314 Heated Windscreen Washer Nozzles Frontscheibenwaschduesen Beheizt
    359 Visibility Pack Sichtpaket
    381 Roof In Body Colour Dach In Wagenfarbe
    3AB Body Coloured Mirror Caps Spiegelkappen In Wagenfarbe
    450 Height Adjustment F Front Passenger Seat Beifahrersitz Hoehenverstellung
    481 Sport Seats F Driver/front Passenger Sportsitze Fuer Fahrer/beifahrer
    493 Storage Compartment Package Ablagenpaket
    494 Seat Heating F Driver/front Passenger Sitzheizung Fuer Fahrer/beifahrer
    4AU Additional Decor Rings Erweiterte Dekorumfaenge
    4C1 Colour Line Carbon Black Colour Line Carbon Black
    4CU Interior World Carbon Black Interieurfarbe Carbon Black
    4UF Sport Button Sport Button
    520 Foglights Nebelscheinwerfer
    521 Rain Sensor Regensensor
    534 Automatic Air Conditioning Klimaautomatik
    548 Speedometer With Kilometer Reading Kilometertacho
    550 On-board Computer Bordcomputer
    563 Lights Package Lichtpaket
    5AA Rear Fog Lamp Nebelschlussleuchte
    5DD Car Jack Wagenheber
    5DT Dynamic Traction Control Dynamic Traction Control
    645 Radio Control Us Radio-steuerung Us
    653 High Definition Radio High Definition Radio
    693 Satellite Tuner Preparation Satellitentuner Vorbereitung
    6FC Radio Mini Boost Cd Radio Mini Boost Cd
    736 Second Radio Remote Control Key 2. Funkfernbedienungsschluessel
    785 White Direction Indicator Lights Weisse Blinkleuchten
    823 Hot Climate Version Heissland-ausfuehrung
    838 Canadian Version Kanada-ausfuehrung
    842 Cold Climate Version Kaltland-ausfuehrung
    845 Acoustic Belt Warning Akustische Gurtwarnung
    853 Language Version English Sprachversion Englisch
    876 Radio Frequency 315 Mhz Funkfrequenz 315 Mhz
    8SM Vin, Visible From Outside Fahrgestellnummer,v.aussen Sichtbar
    8SP Cop Control Cop Steuerung
    925 Shipping Protection Package Versandschutzpaket
    927 All Season Tires All Season Bereifung
    Biggest disappointments were that it came with a single key, it wasn't optioned with Xenons (the halogens are terrible), and it doesn't have comfort access (but meh)

    Issues:
    Fog lights look nasty, either need a polish or complete replacement.
    Paint/light has a lot of scratches, some small dents. Would be nice to get it PDR'd and polished as much as I can.
    Both sun visors have the mirror covers ripped off (who does this?)
    Has some amount of aftermarket exhaust that drones badly at highway speeds. Likely will add a muffler.
    Battery cover is missing, as apparently every other car.
    Hood release handle in the cabin is messed up somehow
    Driver door is stiff and has issues latching.
    Rear fog is full of water.
    The dipstick is impossible to read.
    Misfire at high load/high RPM, maybe also upon first start when settling into idle. Coils seem hilariously cheap on rockauto. After the first day I couldn't make it misfire up top again.
    Missing the tiny flap under the car in front of the DS wheel.

    Initial observations:
    Engine seems to be happy, no death rattle (yet???).
    180hp feels way stronger than I would've thought.
    DME seems to blip throttle itself when clutch engages. I even basically dumped the clutch (I apparently can't wear dress shoes in this car because they don't fit) and it didn't stall out.
    Exhaust is unbearable on the highway.
    I wish it had native bluetooth, but it's not shocking that it doesn't.
    Halogen lights are useless at night.
    Would be an absolute riot with ~225 hp.
    Tons of headroom without the sunroof.
    Sport mode makes throttle response respectable (yay), makes pOpS aNd BaNgs from the exhaust (boo), and steering heavier (meh).


    Basic Plans:
    Oil Change
    Fix Broken Shit™
    Intercooler upgrade
    Add a muffler
    Downpipe if it doesn't already have one
    Figure out how to read/write/edit the DME
    Lightweight 17x8 wheels, summer tires
    Maybe retrofit some better headlights once I'm more confident that they're PNP or can be successfully coded.



    Pictures:

    At the dealer:


    Heading home:


    Pit stop for gas (for the outback lol) and coffee.


    Stopping at the Homeless Despot for plumbing supplies


    At the DMV, unintentionally ft. the Vitamin O distro plant


    Dirty Engine bay with some rusty fasteners and missing battery cover.


    Interior from ad:
    Last edited by Northern; 04-12-2022, 02:27 PM.
    Originally posted by priapism
    My girl don't know shit, but she bakes a mean cupcake.
    Originally posted by shameson
    Usually it's best not to know how much money you have into your e30
  • Northern
    R3V Elite
    • Nov 2010
    • 5068

    #2
    reserved (1/2)
    Originally posted by priapism
    My girl don't know shit, but she bakes a mean cupcake.
    Originally posted by shameson
    Usually it's best not to know how much money you have into your e30

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    • Northern
      R3V Elite
      • Nov 2010
      • 5068

      #3
      reserved (2/2)
      Originally posted by priapism
      My girl don't know shit, but she bakes a mean cupcake.
      Originally posted by shameson
      Usually it's best not to know how much money you have into your e30

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      • 2mAn
        Señior Mod
        • Aug 2010
        • 20173

        #4
        Its not a truck, but it will do
        Simon
        Current Cars:
        -1966 Lotus Elan
        -1986 German Car
        -2006 Volkswagen Jetta TDI

        Make R3V Great Again -2020

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        • uturn
          E30 Modder
          • Dec 2010
          • 987

          #5
          Congratulations!
          I'm sure it will give you endless hours of wrenching joy!

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          • Northern
            R3V Elite
            • Nov 2010
            • 5068

            #6
            It took a mere 6 days to run into my first issue with the car.

            My wife took the car to a meeting and upon arriving, listened to "just one song" with the car off. Then she tried to move the car and it wouldn't start.
            I told her to just leave it until she was done her meeting and call me, banking on the battery recovering enough to be able to start.
            Lucked out and the car did start.

            I investigated the exhaust a bit.

            Sadly it's not an aftermarket anything, the PO just straight piped the first section with some gross looking tubing, and fired what is probably a Magnaflow on the back.
            That explains the drone I guess.
            Ordered a 2.25 Vibrant Ultra Quiet Resonator to install where the old res was, hoping for a miracle but I'll settle for basically any improvement.
            Tried to find 2.25" quick release vband clamps but apparently they don't exist so I'll weld it all solid lol.

            Discovered that all the chrome badges aren't actually peeling the chrome off, but apparently had been poorly painted black. It'll take some effort to chip off the paint that's still in the crevices, but polish seems to remove the weird haze left after the paint comes off.
            Lights are equally gross, mostly from scratches. Gave the tails a single quick pass by hand with some Flitz and it made a big difference:




            Today I bought a new massive (760 CCA AGM) battery. Original was 480 CCA. Should be good for listening to maybe even two songs with the engine off haha.
            I was pleased to discover that this car does not have Irritable Bowel Syndrome, err Intelligent Battery Sensor, so no coding to deal with yet.

            Also picked up new Bosch wipers and some fancypants halogen low beam bulbs in so I can hopefully not drop $600+ on the Xenon retrofit.
            These were awful:


            Better:


            One rear fog/reverse light was full of water and I thought I'd find the backside had been smashed by a rock or something, but I was excited to see the bulb carrier was just not clipped in right. Pulled it and dried it overnight and it looks good as new.



            Ordered a new key and some E30 bits at the dealer after that. It's been an expensive day.




            Doing a junkyard run tomorrow to try to locate like 20+ random bits of trim/fasteners.
            Originally posted by priapism
            My girl don't know shit, but she bakes a mean cupcake.
            Originally posted by shameson
            Usually it's best not to know how much money you have into your e30

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            • mjweimer
              Mod Crazy
              • Dec 2015
              • 649

              #7
              I like the premise of the first and second gen Mini's - a small/light/fun car - but I've never driven one. It's got to feel similar to an E30 just FWD.

              Those exhaust pipes don't look too bad really but any drone sucks....hopefully the resonator will help.

              FYI - I use these clamps all the time for cats/res: https://www.summitracing.com/parts/wlk-33231

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              • 2mAn
                Señior Mod
                • Aug 2010
                • 20173

                #8
                ...and it begins... lol
                Simon
                Current Cars:
                -1966 Lotus Elan
                -1986 German Car
                -2006 Volkswagen Jetta TDI

                Make R3V Great Again -2020

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                • Northern
                  R3V Elite
                  • Nov 2010
                  • 5068

                  #9
                  Originally posted by mjweimer
                  I like the premise of the first and second gen Mini's - a small/light/fun car - but I've never driven one. It's got to feel similar to an E30 just FWD.

                  Those exhaust pipes don't look too bad really but any drone sucks....hopefully the resonator will help.

                  FYI - I use these clamps all the time for cats/res: https://www.summitracing.com/parts/wlk-33231
                  Yeah it has a lot of that e30 small car snappyness, just FWD and more modern interior. I like it a lot so far, other than the exhaust - still waiting on the resonator.
                  I'll consider those clamps if I don't just weld it solid. I don't 100% remember, but I think the sizing on the vibrant res would allow those to be used.
                  I really think I'll end up ordering a full exhaust at some point down the road since this is still <2.25" in some spots.

                  Saturday I did a junkyard run, They had two cars I knew about and had just dragged a clubman in that was basically untouched.
                  I managed to snag:
                  A hood release cable
                  Two hood release handle mechanisms (one spare since they seem flimsy)
                  Two full sun visors (in the wrong colour sadly)
                  One wrong underbody trim panel
                  A bunch of clips for the underbody trim panels
                  Front "wing" hood badge that hadn't been painted black at some point (I think the "Mini" roundel is separate?)

                  Bonus pic of accurate Clubman description:



                  Once I returned home, I ordered the remaining stuff from FCP Euro:


                  I changed the oil Sunday night and it was a fairly painful experience.
                  The dipstick is basically useless as I mentioned before.
                  The sump plug is on the bottom of the pan instead of the side, so as soon as you crack it loose it begins to piss oil all over socket/ratchet/hand.
                  The filter is located about halfway down the block under the turbo on a 45 degree angle, so you can access it by removing the coolant reservoir and brute forcing it out of the way.
                  Said coolant reservoir has a plastic tee piece which is known to crack during this operation. Something about mine leaked coolant but I'm choosing to ignore that for now.
                  The filter cap being on a 45 degree and buried deep in the engine bay means there is no quantity of rags that will catch all the oil that comes out.

                  Upon refill I went from memory and put 4.5L of oil in, then googled after the fact and found 4.2L is the spec.
                  I also drained the old oil into a jug and found only ~2.5L of oil?
                  I just topped up the oil so I'm not sure what is going on but I'm a little concerned.
                  Is the dipstick just completely useless (would help make sense about the existence of the cravenspeed dipstick, as well as how many people say to order it), or did I somehow burn 1.5L of oil in like 3 hours of driving without leaving a puddle of oil or noticeably burning anything?

                  Ordered a bunch of misc stuff from amazon/ebay:
                  Stubby Antenna
                  12pt spark plug socket
                  phone mount
                  catch can
                  Aluminum tube for pre-intercooler intake muffler delete.

                  Phone mount already showed up, and despite the hideous rendition of the union jack and "MINI", it's a huge improvement over google maps/spotify from the passenger seat.


                  Bolts onto the three tach screws and fits decently. Forgot the "after" pic...


                  Trying to research this DME, MEVD17.2.2. Not a whole lot of complete info out there, just little tidbits here and there.
                  Also trying to plan out a mod path to bump power a bit but it's hard to sort through a lot of the old info on the various mini forums... finding good info is like pulling teeth.
                  Originally posted by priapism
                  My girl don't know shit, but she bakes a mean cupcake.
                  Originally posted by shameson
                  Usually it's best not to know how much money you have into your e30

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                  • 2mAn
                    Señior Mod
                    • Aug 2010
                    • 20173

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Northern
                    Upon refill I went from memory and put 4.5L of oil in, then googled after the fact and found 4.2L is the spec.
                    I also drained the old oil into a jug and found only ~2.5L of oil?
                    I just topped up the oil so I'm not sure what is going on but I'm a little concerned.
                    Is the dipstick just completely useless (would help make sense about the existence of the cravenspeed dipstick, as well as how many people say to order it), or did I somehow burn 1.5L of oil in like 3 hours of driving without leaving a puddle of oil or noticeably burning anything?
                    I think its obvious isnt it? 1.5L of oil have spilled from various parts of the car during the oil change lol

                    I cant remember the Mini forum I was on, but it was decent... which ones are you perusing through? None are as good as R3V as you can imagine
                    Simon
                    Current Cars:
                    -1966 Lotus Elan
                    -1986 German Car
                    -2006 Volkswagen Jetta TDI

                    Make R3V Great Again -2020

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                    • Northern
                      R3V Elite
                      • Nov 2010
                      • 5068

                      #11
                      Mostly Northamericanmotoring, min2, and I think minitorque are the big ones. Resorting to Facebook, reddit, and asking random other people for some things lol.

                      I bought one of those aftermarket Cravenspeed dipsticks because if I kill this engine with no oil I'll hate myself.
                      Originally posted by priapism
                      My girl don't know shit, but she bakes a mean cupcake.
                      Originally posted by shameson
                      Usually it's best not to know how much money you have into your e30

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                      • 2mAn
                        Señior Mod
                        • Aug 2010
                        • 20173

                        #12
                        North American Motoring is what I used
                        Simon
                        Current Cars:
                        -1966 Lotus Elan
                        -1986 German Car
                        -2006 Volkswagen Jetta TDI

                        Make R3V Great Again -2020

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                        • Northern
                          R3V Elite
                          • Nov 2010
                          • 5068

                          #13
                          I got some decent feedback from one of the facebook groups. Didn't learn much, but confirmed some things.

                          I guess there's a good Damos file out there somewhere, so if I can find someone with it, I could tune, toggle DTCs, etc.
                          You can read/write the calibration section via OBD2 with TGflash, which is ~1/10 the cost of an authentic/new KessV2. I'd order this now, but I don't know if the DTCs are in the calibration or the full dump (so I might still need a different method - probably bootmode read with K-Tag which involves removing/opening the ECU.)

                          Getting a little annoyed with the suspension. Not sure if the dampers are bad or what, but it is definitely harsh over bumps and almost feels like a skip or bump steer while cornering and hitting bumps. I'm sure some of this is just from being FWD but I'm looking into options that aren't significantly lower/stiffer.

                          Oil level was still good after one week, dipstick is still shit.

                          Filled the tank up for the first time after ~300km highway and two weeks of the wife's commute.
                          The Outback was basically one (10L larger) tank per week, which is very close to negating the base cost of this car.
                          Last edited by Northern; 11-25-2021, 04:56 AM.
                          Originally posted by priapism
                          My girl don't know shit, but she bakes a mean cupcake.
                          Originally posted by shameson
                          Usually it's best not to know how much money you have into your e30

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                          • MrBurgundy
                            R3V Elite
                            • Mar 2012
                            • 5323

                            #14
                            That thinig is gonna blow up sooner than later haha

                            What I do for the dipstick is notch it so the oil will collect in the grooves
                            Current Collection: 1990 325is // 1987 325i Vert // 2003 525i 5spd // 1985 380SL // 1992 Ranger 5spd // 2005 Avalanche // 2024 Honda Grom SP // 2024 Yamaha XSR700 // 2024 Jeep Gladiator Rubicon

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                            • moatilliatta
                              R3V OG
                              • Feb 2005
                              • 6121

                              #15
                              Fix Broken Shit™ - You found the right car.

                              I was up above it, Now I'm down in it ~ Entropy - A Build thread.
                              @Zakspeed_US

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