Collection_47. ETK_51_Body equipment. Door glass movement mechanism
We continue the section:
Body trim
In the previous post, I said that the glass and door windows are different for pre-April 1988 and post-April 1988 cars. This is due to differences in the design of window regulators and doors. These two types of glass and window lifters are not interchangeable and can only be used in accordance with each other. Until April 1988, the window regulators were cable-operated. Cable guides simultaneously served as glass guides. After April 1988, the design of the window lifts was significantly changed - they received a lever-type drive ("scissors") with additional glass guides.
Both types can have either manual or electric drive. At the same time, the glass of the corresponding type is the same, regardless of the type of drive.
There is also a nuance regarding the compatibility of window regulators with doors. Since the internal structure of the doors was changed after the restyling in 1987, and the structure of the windows was changed only in 1988, the "cable" type window regulators fit any door, and the "scissor" type window regulators only fit the doors after the restyling. To put them on the door before 87, you need to drill additional holes. The doors after 1987 have holes for attaching both types of window regulators.
So, now all my doors are restyled, but the window regulators, according to the year of production, remain of the "cable" type. Previously, the front ones were electric, and the rear ones were manual. But I did manage to find the rear electric ones, and now all four windows have an electric drive.
Unit:
Front door glass moving mechanism

Since I have never had front windows with a manual drive, then we will consider only electric windows - part #10 on the diagram.

Detail No. 11 - guide cable of the window lifter.
The guide (No. 11) with an electric drive (No. 12) is attached to the door with four bolts (No. 2) and three nuts (No. 13). By the way, the ETK does not show two more similar bolts (#2) that fasten the glass to the window regulator. But I will write about the installation of glass later.
Part E30 Classified Forums - 6-sided Z-shaped key for manual emergency closing of windows (54 12 7 199 322). It is used only for "cable" electric windows. In the event of engine failure, it is inserted into the engine axle through a special plug in the door trim and turns it like a manual window lifter. It is also used for electric sunroof.
Cover No. 15 and four screws No. 16 press the electric drive to the cable guide.

The cover of the electric drive mechanism and the rubber plug of the axle are assembled with the motor according to the ETC.

Part No. 17 is a plastic bracket that additionally fixes the cable guide. Apparently, for some reason, few people have kept it. I didn't have it either. Although their price is not pleasing, I ordered new ones - 51 33 1 919 541.

It is placed at the bottom in a special hole, and is fixed on the guiding cable.

While inserting the window lifter into the door by trial and error, I scratched the paint a little, then I had to repaint it. To prevent this from happening, you need to immediately turn the window regulator 90 degrees and put it in the door, then turn it back. It is better to do this before installing glass seals. I inserted the other three window regulators faster and without scratches. Align the holes and fasten. By the way, the photo shows empty holes for installing restyled "scissors" type window lifts.

P.S.
I did find my black factory clips for the pull of the door handle - I put them instead of the new white ones so that they were the same on all doors.
Unit:
Rear door glass movement mechanism

Here again the inaccuracy of ETK - the name of the section and the diagram are simply copied from the previous section of the front windows. But these are the rear ones.
Rear "cable" power windows are not very common, but I was lucky enough to find them in fairly good working order. Although I had to wash and clean them well, and then lubricate them. By the way, I did the same with the front ones for prevention.
So, we wash and clean the guides and cables


Then remove the cover, clean the cable mechanism and lubricate it.

On the other hand, we also remove the cover, clean the drive mechanism and lubricate it.

The protective casings on top of the guides became brittle from old age, so I cut new ones from the same material in their shape. They are attached with ordinary staples for a stapler.


I lubricated the cables and their guides with a special Teflon lubricant for window regulators.

Now they are ready to install.

The design and fastening of the rear power windows is similar to the front ones. Therefore, I see no point in repeating the description. The only difference is that the plastic bracket (#17) is not placed on the rear, although it is present on the ETK scheme. Obviously, this is just a copied scheme of the front ones. I tried to install it, but it does not lock into the hole at all and does not line up with the guide.

The installation process is also similar to the previous ones. Installed. In the photo, for example, a key for emergency closing is inserted into the drive.

The following photos are just for comparison and information.
On the left is a manual rear window lifter, on the right is an electric rear window lifter

The same, on the other hand

On the left is the front, on the right is the rear electric window lifter

The same, on the other hand

Now I can install the glass and seals.
We continue the section:
Body trim
In the previous post, I said that the glass and door windows are different for pre-April 1988 and post-April 1988 cars. This is due to differences in the design of window regulators and doors. These two types of glass and window lifters are not interchangeable and can only be used in accordance with each other. Until April 1988, the window regulators were cable-operated. Cable guides simultaneously served as glass guides. After April 1988, the design of the window lifts was significantly changed - they received a lever-type drive ("scissors") with additional glass guides.
Both types can have either manual or electric drive. At the same time, the glass of the corresponding type is the same, regardless of the type of drive.
There is also a nuance regarding the compatibility of window regulators with doors. Since the internal structure of the doors was changed after the restyling in 1987, and the structure of the windows was changed only in 1988, the "cable" type window regulators fit any door, and the "scissor" type window regulators only fit the doors after the restyling. To put them on the door before 87, you need to drill additional holes. The doors after 1987 have holes for attaching both types of window regulators.
So, now all my doors are restyled, but the window regulators, according to the year of production, remain of the "cable" type. Previously, the front ones were electric, and the rear ones were manual. But I did manage to find the rear electric ones, and now all four windows have an electric drive.
Unit:
Front door glass moving mechanism

Since I have never had front windows with a manual drive, then we will consider only electric windows - part #10 on the diagram.

Detail No. 11 - guide cable of the window lifter.
The guide (No. 11) with an electric drive (No. 12) is attached to the door with four bolts (No. 2) and three nuts (No. 13). By the way, the ETK does not show two more similar bolts (#2) that fasten the glass to the window regulator. But I will write about the installation of glass later.
Part E30 Classified Forums - 6-sided Z-shaped key for manual emergency closing of windows (54 12 7 199 322). It is used only for "cable" electric windows. In the event of engine failure, it is inserted into the engine axle through a special plug in the door trim and turns it like a manual window lifter. It is also used for electric sunroof.
Cover No. 15 and four screws No. 16 press the electric drive to the cable guide.

The cover of the electric drive mechanism and the rubber plug of the axle are assembled with the motor according to the ETC.

Part No. 17 is a plastic bracket that additionally fixes the cable guide. Apparently, for some reason, few people have kept it. I didn't have it either. Although their price is not pleasing, I ordered new ones - 51 33 1 919 541.

It is placed at the bottom in a special hole, and is fixed on the guiding cable.

While inserting the window lifter into the door by trial and error, I scratched the paint a little, then I had to repaint it. To prevent this from happening, you need to immediately turn the window regulator 90 degrees and put it in the door, then turn it back. It is better to do this before installing glass seals. I inserted the other three window regulators faster and without scratches. Align the holes and fasten. By the way, the photo shows empty holes for installing restyled "scissors" type window lifts.

P.S.
I did find my black factory clips for the pull of the door handle - I put them instead of the new white ones so that they were the same on all doors.
Unit:
Rear door glass movement mechanism

Here again the inaccuracy of ETK - the name of the section and the diagram are simply copied from the previous section of the front windows. But these are the rear ones.
Rear "cable" power windows are not very common, but I was lucky enough to find them in fairly good working order. Although I had to wash and clean them well, and then lubricate them. By the way, I did the same with the front ones for prevention.
So, we wash and clean the guides and cables


Then remove the cover, clean the cable mechanism and lubricate it.

On the other hand, we also remove the cover, clean the drive mechanism and lubricate it.

The protective casings on top of the guides became brittle from old age, so I cut new ones from the same material in their shape. They are attached with ordinary staples for a stapler.


I lubricated the cables and their guides with a special Teflon lubricant for window regulators.

Now they are ready to install.

The design and fastening of the rear power windows is similar to the front ones. Therefore, I see no point in repeating the description. The only difference is that the plastic bracket (#17) is not placed on the rear, although it is present on the ETK scheme. Obviously, this is just a copied scheme of the front ones. I tried to install it, but it does not lock into the hole at all and does not line up with the guide.

The installation process is also similar to the previous ones. Installed. In the photo, for example, a key for emergency closing is inserted into the drive.

The following photos are just for comparison and information.
On the left is a manual rear window lifter, on the right is an electric rear window lifter

The same, on the other hand

On the left is the front, on the right is the rear electric window lifter

The same, on the other hand

Now I can install the glass and seals.
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