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  • dvallis
    E30 Fanatic
    • Oct 2015
    • 1472

    #1

    450v

    So, I'm building my own version of a 1957 Maserati 450S. Who wants to see the build?

    "And then we broke the car. Again." Mark Donohue, "The Unfair Advantage"

    1987 E30 3L Turbo Stroker Das Beast
    2002 E39 M5
  • Fraser
    Advanced Member
    • Nov 2003
    • 194

    #2
    Um yes...

    325iX Turdbo Rally/Hillclimb/Beater

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    • uturn
      E30 Modder
      • Dec 2010
      • 983

      #3
      Does it involve papier-mâché?

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      • 2mAn
        Moderator
        • Aug 2010
        • 20062

        #4
        Me
        Simon
        Current Cars:
        -1966 Lotus Elan
        -1986 German Car
        -2006 Volkswagen Jetta TDI

        Make R3V Great Again -2020

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        • dvallis
          E30 Fanatic
          • Oct 2015
          • 1472

          #5
          No paper mache. Maybe Cardboard Aided Design sometimes.

          I started with actual CAD, stretching the 450S body to fit over a Corvette C5 frame.

          "And then we broke the car. Again." Mark Donohue, "The Unfair Advantage"

          1987 E30 3L Turbo Stroker Das Beast
          2002 E39 M5

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          • dvallis
            E30 Fanatic
            • Oct 2015
            • 1472

            #6
            I liked the way CAD was coming so I committed. Bought a C5 rolling frame and had it shipped to Austin.







            Started chopping off things I would not be needing.



            Then I used photogrammetry to scan the entire frame, convert to a 3D model and pull into CAD. Added bits like the engine, transmission etc from other CAD models.





            Then I used the frame CAD to get proper proportions for the 450V Body.









            Next, time to CAD the body buck. Had to learn how to work with 3D meshes so I could pull them into a proper CAD program.



            I eventually got a 3D model of the car to interact with virtual plywood. I could "cut" the plywood with the metal body.



            After that it was a lot of grunt work to CAD the custom buck. Panel placement and spacing was an art.



            After a couple of months working nights and weekends I had a body buck.



            Still not done. Next step is taking each buck piece and cutting finger slots so that all the pieces interlock like a puzzle. That took another month. Then, finally, panelize the buck pieces onto 4x8 sheets, add through cut ID labels and export to DXFs. It came out to be 20 sheets.



            Now it gets real. Bought 20 sheets of plywood and trucked them to Duncan at Moonlight for waterjet cutting. Why waterjet? Very tight line width and accuracy.



            Picked up the cut pieces a week later and started assembly.



            The final product





            Last but not least, that giant 3500 lb machine in the background is a Pullmax, multi purpose metal working machine. Will be using it to cut and shape aluminum body panels for the car. We're in the middle of replacing its 3 phase 440V motor with a 220V.



            ​​​​​​​So, there it is.
            "And then we broke the car. Again." Mark Donohue, "The Unfair Advantage"

            1987 E30 3L Turbo Stroker Das Beast
            2002 E39 M5

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            • e30davie
              E30 Mastermind
              • Apr 2016
              • 1788

              #7
              Crikey moses that escalated quickly. quite the project. i thought the giant machine was an English wheel of sorts, is it a planishing hammer too? looks huge

              how much bigger is the end product going to be compared to the original? ie how much did you need to stretch it?

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              • dvallis
                E30 Fanatic
                • Oct 2015
                • 1472

                #8
                The giant machine is a Pullmax P8. Combination planishing hammer, cutter, nibbler flanger multi purpose metal working beast extraordinaire. I bought it in Houston and hired a rigger for moving it to my shop in Austin. It will be a large part of the adventure. I need an English Wheel but might make my own.





                "And then we broke the car. Again." Mark Donohue, "The Unfair Advantage"

                1987 E30 3L Turbo Stroker Das Beast
                2002 E39 M5

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                • CubbyChowder
                  E30 Fanatic
                  • Mar 2012
                  • 1488

                  #9
                  Wow, yes I am 100% in for this build. Already very impressive, can't wait to watch it unfold.


                  --Roundie Revival 2.0 - 1973 BMW 2002 Build Thread--
                  --Golden Boy E30 Build Thread-- (sold)

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                  • 2mAn
                    Moderator
                    • Aug 2010
                    • 20062

                    #10
                    this is fantastic... makes me want to share my other secret project. Nowhere near as awesome as this...
                    Simon
                    Current Cars:
                    -1966 Lotus Elan
                    -1986 German Car
                    -2006 Volkswagen Jetta TDI

                    Make R3V Great Again -2020

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                    • Mike36
                      E30 Enthusiast
                      • Mar 2011
                      • 1077

                      #11
                      Will it be on youtube?
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                      • dillon7
                        E30 Modder
                        • Mar 2013
                        • 824

                        #12
                        Geez, this will be epic. Definitely following along.
                        Instagram: @dillonmakar

                        Build thread HERE

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                        • dvallis
                          E30 Fanatic
                          • Oct 2015
                          • 1472

                          #13
                          I guess I could monetize it on YouTube but I'm more into posting on here, sharing the adventure with a bunch of car guys that "get it".
                          "And then we broke the car. Again." Mark Donohue, "The Unfair Advantage"

                          1987 E30 3L Turbo Stroker Das Beast
                          2002 E39 M5

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                          • rturbo 930
                            R3VLimited
                            • Dec 2005
                            • 2599

                            #14
                            I'd rather follow in text/photo format than another YouTube series.

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                            • Savagefurai
                              E30 Modder
                              • Apr 2011
                              • 970

                              #15
                              ^This.
                              I'm excited to see the rest of this build.
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                              Currently without an e30. Will probably die soon.

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