6/83 grey market 323i.. mtech I S50 5-lug

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  • delamaize
    E30 Fanatic
    • Nov 2013
    • 1429

    #421
    *cough* M60 *cough*

    lol
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    • 2mAn
      Moderator
      • Aug 2010
      • 20062

      #422
      I got excited last night because I know someone who has a refreshed S52 block, but now I see you're looking for a S50 block... booo
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      • ThatOneEuroE30
        R3V OG
        • Dec 2013
        • 8626

        #423
        Originally posted by 2mAn
        I got excited last night because I know someone who has a refreshed S52 block, but now I see you're looking for a S50 block... booo
        He can just sleeve those 3 cylinders there is nothing wrong with doing that. I know many people that have done it and couple that are running sleeved s5x's in race cars with zero issues. plus sleeving a cyl is like 60 a pop. that will be far cheaper then a new rotating assembly


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        • kronus
          R3V OG
          • Apr 2008
          • 13000

          #424
          sleeving cylinders is unfortunately not 60 a pop in the bay area

          also I want new pistons anyway cause these are all pocked up
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          • kronus
            R3V OG
            • Apr 2008
            • 13000

            #425
            Originally posted by 2mAn
            I got excited last night because I know someone who has a refreshed S52 block, but now I see you're looking for a S50 block... booo
            yeah, I want to keep the s50 block cause bay area referees actually look at the numbers on it
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            • 2mAn
              Moderator
              • Aug 2010
              • 20062

              #426
              Is your crank still good? Can you just go to the S52 piston size? It nets you ~3025cc and makes it a slightly overbore setup.
              Last edited by 2mAn; 05-19-2016, 09:10 AM.
              Simon
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              • kronus
                R3V OG
                • Apr 2008
                • 13000

                #427
                s52 pistons need s52 crank

                edit: wrist pin is higher on s52 pistons because longer crank throw
                Last edited by kronus; 05-19-2016, 09:13 AM.
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                • 2mAn
                  Moderator
                  • Aug 2010
                  • 20062

                  #428
                  Originally posted by kronus
                  s52 pistons need s52 crank
                  why? Im not challenging you, just curious.

                  I would even be tempted to use a M52 crank if you could and make it a real overbore setup with a 86.4mm bore and 84mm stroke. Still would be considered a 3L (2955cc)
                  Simon
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                  • kronus
                    R3V OG
                    • Apr 2008
                    • 13000

                    #429
                    Originally posted by 2mAn
                    why? Im not challenging you, just curious.

                    I would even be tempted to use a M52 crank if you could and make it a real overbore setup with a 86.4mm bore and 84mm stroke. Still would be considered a 3L (2955cc)
                    s52 pistons with an s50 crank will lead to very low compression, the wrist pin height is higher on s52 pistons due to longer crank throw.

                    I haven't looked at nonstandard builds yet.. not sure that there's a convenient piston that I can use with an 84mm stroke crank.
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                    • ThatOneEuroE30
                      R3V OG
                      • Dec 2013
                      • 8626

                      #430
                      Originally posted by kronus
                      sleeving cylinders is unfortunately not 60 a pop in the bay area

                      also I want new pistons anyway cause these are all pocked up

                      Well that sucks. Here I can get it done for 60 with labor or sometimes just for the cost of the sleeve. Whats a sleeve run out there?


                      1989 325is l 1984 euro 320i l 1970 2002 Racecar
                      1991 318i 4dr slick top


                      Euro spec 320i/Alpina B6 3.5 project(the never ending saga)
                      Vintage race car revival (2002 content)
                      Mtech 2 turbo restoration
                      Brilliantrot slick top "build"

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                      • DER E30
                        R3VLimited
                        • Sep 2013
                        • 2343

                        #431
                        Originally posted by kronus
                        s52 pistons with an s50 crank will lead to very low compression
                        Booooooooost????
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                        • pandaboo911
                          R3VLimited
                          • May 2010
                          • 2070

                          #432
                          6/83 grey market 323i

                          Nice 5 lug [emoji6]

                          Running e30 m3 rear brakes?


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                          • kronus
                            R3V OG
                            • Apr 2008
                            • 13000

                            #433
                            Originally posted by pandaboo911
                            Nice 5 lug [emoji6]

                            Running e30 m3 rear brakes?
                            yup, e30 M3 rears. got my hands on a set of caliper carriers and didn't see a need to figure out something bigger.


                            engine updates, got it torn down. here's some photos from the process.







                            an example of the scoring i'm dealing with:




                            In good news, I traded the S50 crank to Eric for his S52 crank and pistons, and arranged with Rebello to get the block boiled and bored out to 86.4mm, which should be happening in the next few weeks.

                            In the meantime, I am looking at bottom end bearings. Glyco's ok, yeah?
                            cars beep boop

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                            • pandaboo911
                              R3VLimited
                              • May 2010
                              • 2070

                              #434
                              In that case you'll have the exact same setup as I do. You'll probably have to shave the e46 carriers up front. Lmk if you got questions.

                              Ebrake lines are easy to remove/install fyi


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                              • kronus
                                R3V OG
                                • Apr 2008
                                • 13000

                                #435
                                yeah, ebrakes are out already, went through all that with the black car.

                                not looking forward a ton to installing the fronts..
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