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  • MrBurgundy
    R3V Elite
    • Mar 2012
    • 5291

    #14701
    Drove a C8 today.. man, what a car for the money... Too bad it..... looks the way it does..


    Current Collection: 1990 325is // 1987 325i Vert // 2003 525i 5spd // 1985 380SL // 1992 Ranger 5spd // 2005 Avalanche // 2024 Honda Grom SP // 2024 Yamaha XSR700 // 2024 Jeep Gladiator Rubicon

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    • roguetoaster
      R3V OG
      • Jan 2012
      • 7742

      #14702
      Originally posted by MrBurgundy
      Drove a C8 today.. man, what a car for the money... Too bad it..... looks the way it does..

      If one were to hit a tree at around 200mph one might just spontaneously reassemble the bodywork in to something more appealing.

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      • varg
        No R3VLimiter
        • May 2014
        • 3283

        #14703
        Originally posted by MrBurgundy
        Drove a C8 today.. man, what a car for the money... Too bad it..... looks the way it does..
        Yeah, things don't tend to grow on me in general, but I hoped the C8 would because I see so many of them, but it's just so... uninteresting. It's not quite ugly, but it's not good looking. It looks like a GTA car or something. Now the C7, that was ugly, especially coming from the C6. What's really disappointing is that once you start to see and hear them you'll find that the Z06 doesn't even sound good. It just has a kind of buzzing nasal exhaust note, like a ferrari 458. A high revving V8 can sing, but these cars just don't. Couldn't tell you why, I haven't seen the exhaust system. But were I a betting man, I'd put money on it having one huge flaw: no X pipe.
        Last edited by varg; 12-19-2024, 05:52 PM.

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        • rturbo 930
          R3VLimited
          • Dec 2005
          • 2599

          #14704
          Originally posted by MrBurgundy
          Drove a C8 today.. man, what a car for the money... Too bad it..... looks the way it does..

          Any time I see them it just looks too much to me like a Chinese knockoff of an F430.

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          • MrBurgundy
            R3V Elite
            • Mar 2012
            • 5291

            #14705
            Yeah, truly awful looking. It something that a 10 year old would think looks good. Especially from the rear. The interior quality was very very nice tho, which I don't think I've ever said about an american car before.

            Servicing it was also a breeze. Running a euro shop, I see what those manufactures are doing, where they're headed and what it takes to do basic service... It's awful.

            The C8 can be serviced by a DIYer without any fancy equipment needed to reset an interval on the dash..

            Yeah it sounds like shit, looks like shit, but its a breath of fresh air to see something that I would say is still simple, high performance and DIY friendly.
            Current Collection: 1990 325is // 1987 325i Vert // 2003 525i 5spd // 1985 380SL // 1992 Ranger 5spd // 2005 Avalanche // 2024 Honda Grom SP // 2024 Yamaha XSR700 // 2024 Jeep Gladiator Rubicon

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            • 2mAn
              Moderator
              • Aug 2010
              • 20062

              #14706
              I heard one the other day before I saw it.. sounded great then I looked and saw it, and was ... impressed.

              Could never own one though
              Simon
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              • varg
                No R3VLimiter
                • May 2014
                • 3283

                #14707
                I went down a little bit of a rabbit hole looking at the C8 Z06 exhaust, looked at some photos, and I was right, no x-pipe. It does sound better with an x-pipe, as shown in this video. It brings out the higher harmonics which is what you want with that high revving engine. But it sounds a lot better in race mode stock in this video than what I hear around here. Must just be killing the higher frequency sound when it's not in race mode. The X-pipe does not make as big of a difference here as it does in V6 cars though, equal length headers and an X-pipe are the killer app for most engines. I bet you could even make an E46 M3 sound good if you made it equal length from exhaust valve to merge or X-pipe. The stock E46 M3 exhaust has an H-pipe IIRC and I know is very unequal length and that's why they sound like pure hissing 2005 tuner boy civic rasp.



                I've gone on an autismal tangent about exhaust sound over the past year or so since building my most powerful car yet and realizing I just can't use the power. I'm now convinced that I should focus on tuning sound as well as performance next time around because if a car sounds great you can always enjoy the sound, but when a car has 500hp+ you only get to enjoy that for a few seconds on an empty road and that's it. I have stupid tires on my E34 and I'm still traction limited on medium boost, and I have a 2.93 LSD in that thing! I haven't even tapped into its full potential yet by putting the B58 coils in it so I can go past 17psi of boost without missing. With 20psi+ this thing is going to be scary. I got lucky with my E30 and E34 and in building my exhausts to flow and be pretty quiet I killed the nasty I6 rasp that you hear with absolute hogs like the post V8 era M3s, despite the rapid spool headers being far from equal length.
                Last edited by varg; 12-20-2024, 02:31 PM.

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                '94 525iT slicktop, M50B30 + S362SX-E, 600WHP DD or bust
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                • E30 Wagen
                  No R3VLimiter
                  • Jul 2005
                  • 3425

                  #14708
                  I like the C8 Z06. Top Gear's appraisal of the design as "my first super car" is pretty accurate but I wouldn't say it's awful looking. I'd have one, just no wing and with the silver spider design wheels, maybe in black with the full carbon package. What I don't get is why they didn't just commit to a normal hardtop version next to the convertible. The square steering wheel would also have to go.
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                  • MrBurgundy
                    R3V Elite
                    • Mar 2012
                    • 5291

                    #14709
                    The Z06 uses a flat plane compared to the base's cross plane, which really adds to the sound department.

                    Sound is important. Def a deal breaker for me personally when deciding if a car is worth adding to the garage.

                    Also, fuck this Christmas tree strapped to the roof trend. Very cringe.

                    Anyways, merry Christmas.
                    Current Collection: 1990 325is // 1987 325i Vert // 2003 525i 5spd // 1985 380SL // 1992 Ranger 5spd // 2005 Avalanche // 2024 Honda Grom SP // 2024 Yamaha XSR700 // 2024 Jeep Gladiator Rubicon

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                    • varg
                      No R3VLimiter
                      • May 2014
                      • 3283

                      #14710
                      Merry Christmas

                      MrBurgundy I strapped a Christmas tree to my E30 before it was cool (this pic is from 2017)

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                      Yes I did pick it up and bring it home this way, for a few years in fact. This year I picked it up in my wagon.
                      Last edited by varg; 12-25-2024, 06:10 PM.

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                      '91 318is, M20 turbo
                      [CoTM: 4-18]
                      '94 525iT slicktop, M50B30 + S362SX-E, 600WHP DD or bust
                      '93 RX-7 FD3S

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                      • MrBurgundy
                        R3V Elite
                        • Mar 2012
                        • 5291

                        #14711
                        Originally posted by varg
                        Merry Christmas

                        MrBurgundy I strapped a Christmas tree to my E30 before it was cool (this pic is from 2017)

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                        Yes I did pick it up and bring it home this way, for a few years in fact. This year I picked it up in my wagon.
                        I'm sure you actually set it up tho lol. I've been seeing pics taking them to meets, cruises and canyon drives....

                        They def aren't seeing the inside of a house before they're tossed.
                        Current Collection: 1990 325is // 1987 325i Vert // 2003 525i 5spd // 1985 380SL // 1992 Ranger 5spd // 2005 Avalanche // 2024 Honda Grom SP // 2024 Yamaha XSR700 // 2024 Jeep Gladiator Rubicon

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                        • McGyver
                          R3V Elite
                          • Jun 2009
                          • 4427

                          #14712
                          Here's my tree from 2020. Im all for bringing it home on the roof, but just driving around wirh it is dumb. This year we got a small one and stuck it in the back seat because it started raining.

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                          1987 - 325i Convertible Delphin Auto [SOLD], 325i Convertible Delphin Manual [SOLD]
                          1989 - 325i Convertible Bronzit m30b35 swapped [SCRAPPED], 325i Sedan Alpine Auto[DD]
                          1991 - 325i Coupe Laguna Manual [Project], 535i Sedan Alpine [SCRAPPED]

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                          • varg
                            No R3VLimiter
                            • May 2014
                            • 3283

                            #14713
                            Originally posted by MrBurgundy
                            I'm sure you actually set it up tho lol. I've been seeing pics taking them to meets, cruises and canyon drives....
                            Yep I drove it straight home and put the sheet down to keep sap off of my porous crappy paint. I have a real tree every year, regardless of how it's getting home. I keep it up until it starts going brown

                            IG @turbovarg
                            '91 318is, M20 turbo
                            [CoTM: 4-18]
                            '94 525iT slicktop, M50B30 + S362SX-E, 600WHP DD or bust
                            '93 RX-7 FD3S

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                            • 2mAn
                              Moderator
                              • Aug 2010
                              • 20062

                              #14714
                              Soooo who actually made a New Years Resolution? lol
                              Simon
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                              -1986 German Car
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                              • MrBurgundy
                                R3V Elite
                                • Mar 2012
                                • 5291

                                #14715
                                Originally posted by 2mAn
                                Soooo who actually made a New Years Resolution? lol
                                Not me...

                                If I need to do something, I'm not waiting until the first to commit to it lol
                                Current Collection: 1990 325is // 1987 325i Vert // 2003 525i 5spd // 1985 380SL // 1992 Ranger 5spd // 2005 Avalanche // 2024 Honda Grom SP // 2024 Yamaha XSR700 // 2024 Jeep Gladiator Rubicon

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