Best M20 powered E30 lap time at Buttonwillow CW13

[Smoove1]

Is there a date set for this event?

This Sunday. December 3rd.

[RoccoB517]

Good luck out there today! Make us proud!!!


Take a couple lunch trays out there just in case the Civic wins. He'll need them to do victory donuts. LOL!

[2mAn]

Fingers crossed!! Kick some ass!

[RoccoB517]

The suspense is killing me!!!!

[wworm]

Just read through this. Now I'm even anxious haha

[RoccoB517]

It's all over Driving Line on Facebook and they are saying,"Stay tuned for the video." No, tell me who won.

[ak-]

ef it seems

[RoccoB517]

ef it seems

Well that blows.

[Digitalwave]

Copied from Geoff on Facebook:

My E30 was only good for a 2:07.568. The EF had a winning time of 2:06.317. My car just wasn’t enough today. Sorry guys. And before anyone starts blaming my driving, after the competition we switched cars. I’ve never driven a FWD Honda before. I ran a 2:06.015 in the EF on my third lap out. He ran a 2:11.801 in mine. My E30 couldn’t out muscle the light EF. Driving Line will have the video out soon. Keep an eye out for it.

[Emre]

So, you have to sell your E30 now?
Sell it to a R3V member for $1
Then buy it back next week

[Smoove1]

Copied from Geoff on Facebook:

I mean, I kinda won... Just in the wrong car.

We had a blast out there none the less. I need to get some fuel starvation issues sorted and get the car back out there. Also, the ABS started to fail on me so once I "relearned" how to enter a corner without ABS I shaved a little more than a second off my lap time. I think there is still some time left in the car. Especially if I get some real seats in there so I can just sit and drive the car rather than try to hold myself up.

If any of you are curious here is the break down of what we did to my car:

- Conforti chip
- 4.10 LSD
- 2.5in single stainless steel exhaust (weight savings)
- Removed the trunk sound deadening.
- Ground Control Coil over conversion with Koni SA. 550lb front, 650lb rear
- Ground Control race camber plates
- Ground Control race rear shock mounts
- Bimmerworld rear toe and camber adjustment plates
- Powerflex black series front control arm (offset), subframe, trailing arm, and diff bushings
- Garagistic strut tube sway bar mounts
- Z3 1.9L steering rack conversion
- New control arms and tie rod ends
- PFC 11 compound pads front and rear
- SS brake lines with Motul 600 RBF
- Refreshed cylinder head. I bought the car with a misfire due to a burnt exhaust valve on cylinder 4.
- 15x7 949 Racing 6UL in spec e30 offset
- 225/45R16 Nitto NT01s


I don't think I'll sell my E30 just yet as we have a lot of labor time in it and it's still a great dual purpose car. Duane is going to keep an eye out for me on a good, track ready EF or EK so we don't have to build a car. The other option is to sell my E90 330i 6 speed and get a TSX 6 speed for a daily driver.

[ForcedFirebird]

How much front camber?

How was the turn in with that suspension? Seems frontal bias making it push on turn in. Learned that twice the hard way. First time was too much F:R bias on spring rates. The second time was using a 19mm rear sway, vert front bar and strut mount links. Both times the car felt like a dump truck. First time went from 450f/550r stock sways both ends, to 450f/900r stock front sway no rear sway. With a vert front bar and strut mount links, the front gets quite heavy. The 19mm rear bar had to be max adjusted (to the point of binding) to "almost" balance the car.

[varg]

Was a little curious about the spring choice myself. I labored over the rates I chose quite a bit and went with 450/650 in the end, seemed like any more in the front would be counterproductive since I had to mind the adjustability of my shocks. Still haven't been able to track it :( Seemed well balanced at the autocross and pitching it into corners at scary speeds but what do I know?

[redlightpete]

Where was the EF faster? Doesn't the E30 have a significant power to weight advantage?

[varg]

EF Hatchbacks are sub 2200lb cars AFAIK, and depending on which D16 it has 110-130hp by my quick googling. So that ranges from significantly worse than an E30 to about the same. Has to have been the cornering speed, the Civic is so much lighter and probably had better sorted suspension. Looks like Buttonwillow's #13 configuration has two decent straights (~1,700ft and ~1,100ft) so the E30 must have been just slaughtered in the corners.