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  • spiDmang
    No R3VLimiter
    • Nov 2010
    • 3941

    #34336
    Originally posted by 5Toes
    truth. anybody who doesn't agree on these basics is misinformed.

    Ive ridden in a s50 swap and m50 swap, haven't driven one myself.
    you should drive one man. riding in one and driving one is a totally different experience :up:
    -Brad, AlphaTeam Motorwerks, LLC
    91' 318iS - S54/6MT Swapped
    08' E90 M3 6MT - Daily
    04' Chevy Duramax CCLB - Work Truck/Hauler


    Originally posted by IronJoe
    Alpha Team: running through e30s, gringo icebergs, and 19 yr olds.

    Originally posted by 2mAn
    Brads a standup guy even though he likes buttsex

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    • Gregolas
      E30 Enthusiast
      • Jun 2011
      • 1187

      #34337
      Originally posted by 5Toes
      truth. anybody who doesn't agree on these basics is misinformed.

      Ive ridden in a s50 swap and m50 swap, haven't driven one myself.
      I think if you did, you would see what we are all addressing here. Don't get me wrong, the M42 had its benefits given the mods I had (lite fly is the best thing that could have been done for it). But after spending all that time, money, and effort I felt like it was all for nothing when I was done.

      The reality is your build purpose/direction. Period correct, power, a balance of the two, stock motor with some umph, etc. Everyones goals are different. I am struggling between a stroker M20 or S54 in my vert. Both have upsides and downsides, but I am torn. Everyone in here would argue which is the better option, and I would bet those are the same struggles going through my head right now.
      - Greg
      α Team Founding Member
      1984 BMW 325 Henna Rot - Sarah -Uber project
      2011 BMW 335d LeMans Blau - Daily Diesel Torque monster

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      • e30austin
        I waste 90% of my day here and all I got was this stupid title
        • Sep 2010
        • 15382

        #34338
        Originally posted by spiDmang
        Have you even driven an S50/S52 swapped e30?
        It's a thing of beauty.
        '70 911s | '72 2002 | '88 M5 | '89 330is | '89 M3 | '95 911 | '02 M5 | '04 RR HSE

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        • spiDmang
          No R3VLimiter
          • Nov 2010
          • 3941

          #34339
          Originally posted by Austin!
          It's a thing of beauty.
          x1000000000000tits
          -Brad, AlphaTeam Motorwerks, LLC
          91' 318iS - S54/6MT Swapped
          08' E90 M3 6MT - Daily
          04' Chevy Duramax CCLB - Work Truck/Hauler


          Originally posted by IronJoe
          Alpha Team: running through e30s, gringo icebergs, and 19 yr olds.

          Originally posted by 2mAn
          Brads a standup guy even though he likes buttsex

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          • djjerme
            R3V Elite
            • Sep 2010
            • 5082

            #34340
            Why does he keep comparing the m42 to an s14?

            Just because they are both 4 cylinders?

            Hell, might as well throw in the m10 and then the m12, because those are both four bangers.

            Dip dip potato chip..

            Sent from my 710C using Tapatalk
            1991 325i MT2 Touring (JDM bro)
            2016 Ford Flex
            2011 Audi A3 - wife's other German car

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            • 5Toes
              Banned
              • May 2010
              • 9836

              #34341
              the s14 stock makes 82hp/liter (190/2.3). the m42 makes 77hp/liter (140/1.8). the m20 makes 68hp/liter. the m42 and s14 are the most comparable engines for e30s that came factory equipped. m42 with a $150 chip is making roughly 82hp/liter (150/1.8) and is in s14 territory without ITBs.

              m42 is pretty potent. the m10 is not in the same ballpark AT ALL with 55hp/liter factory.
              Last edited by 5Toes; 02-11-2016, 06:12 PM.

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              • kid325e
                R3V OG
                • Sep 2007
                • 6421

                #34342
                I'll show myself out.. Thanks..

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                clutchCTRL!
                Move with a purpose.
                - 1991 325iX 4dr/5spd
                - 1976 2002 SlickTop/2.7i M20/G260
                - 2000 323i AT
                2016 Mazda CX3 Sport AWD

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                • Pdxseth
                  No R3VLimiter
                  • May 2012
                  • 3124

                  #34343
                  While were on the topic of retarded ideas, I just ordered a set of 15x9.5 wheels

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                  • djjerme
                    R3V Elite
                    • Sep 2010
                    • 5082

                    #34344
                    Nice! What's the back spacing?

                    15" always look good on an e30, so no complaints here!



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                    1991 325i MT2 Touring (JDM bro)
                    2016 Ford Flex
                    2011 Audi A3 - wife's other German car

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                    • Pdxseth
                      No R3VLimiter
                      • May 2012
                      • 3124

                      #34345
                      Originally posted by djjerme
                      Nice! What's the back spacing?

                      15" always look good on an e30, so no complaints here!



                      Sent from my 710C using Tapatalk

                      +25 but I'll be running 20/25mm spacers I should have about .7mm clearance between my front strut and rim.

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                      • Gregolas
                        E30 Enthusiast
                        • Jun 2011
                        • 1187

                        #34346
                        Originally posted by 5Toes
                        the s14 stock makes 82hp/liter (190/2.3). the m42 makes 77hp/liter (140/1.8). the m20 makes 68hp/liter. the m42 and s14 are the most comparable engines for e30s that came factory equipped. m42 with a $150 chip is making roughly 82hp/liter (150/1.8) and is in s14 territory without ITBs.

                        m42 is pretty potent. the m10 is not in the same ballpark AT ALL with 55hp/liter factory.
                        I have driven all three, and this comparison is not accurate if you actually drive them. They are all different motors in different ways, this is an apples to oranges comparison. My reference for the M42 was one with a chip and a lite flywheel (my car), and I would not compare that motor to the S14 that loved dancing at 8k. The M42 can't even go there. No comparison. I am done discussing this until you drive all motors listed in your eval. I couldn't care less about numbers from ratios Hp/displacement ratios. Case in point: I rode in a freshly rebuilt E30 with a 2.5 M20 making 127hp (had been dynoed), and we were passing an E90 S65 at PIR on the road course. The motor doesn't make you fast, driver skill does.

                        Originally posted by Pdxseth
                        +25 but I'll be running 20/25mm spacers I should have about .7mm clearance between my front strut and rim.
                        Dayum. Thats intense. Too rich for my blood but would love to see how they look when installed!
                        - Greg
                        α Team Founding Member
                        1984 BMW 325 Henna Rot - Sarah -Uber project
                        2011 BMW 335d LeMans Blau - Daily Diesel Torque monster

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                        • Pdxseth
                          No R3VLimiter
                          • May 2012
                          • 3124

                          #34347
                          They'll basically look like the wheels in my sig but should come out about a half inch

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                          • bmwm42
                            R3V OG
                            • Nov 2010
                            • 6300

                            #34348
                            my m42 had no problem living in the 7k range. sure I modified a few things but id had no problems living in that rpm range
                            Originally posted by bmwm42
                            PNW vulture pm me for parts
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                            • DER E30
                              R3VLimited
                              • Sep 2013
                              • 2343

                              #34349
                              Originally posted by bmwm42
                              my m42 had no problem living in the 7k range. sure I modified a few things but id had no problems living in that rpm range
                              I need to do that to mine, its ripping hard as ever at the redline of 6500! Fells like it could spin 7500 no problem
                              -Christian

                              '02 ///M3 CarbonSchwartz 6MT daily beast
                              08/91 Mtechnic II 325IC alpine/lotus
                              318iS, slow build/garage queen...
                              '37 Chevy pickup, the über project
                              Originally posted by roguetoaster
                              Be sure to remind them that the M42 is one of the best engines ever made, but be sure to not mention where it actually falls on that list.

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                              • 2mAn
                                Moderator
                                • Aug 2010
                                • 20062

                                #34350
                                toes: Forever Noob
                                Simon
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