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    Originally posted by parkerbink View Post
    I ordered everything needed for conversion, figured better safe than sorry, does the valance really have to come off to r&r the condenser? Also, FCP Euro is 48.xx cheaper right now than AUTOHAUS AZ for the Behr unit. (95 vs 143)
    Buying a new Behr for what...$4xx...is, IMO a waste of money. It's an r12 compressor w r134 seals whereas you can buy a new high efficiency r134 compressor & expansion valve for half that....as long as you can mount it
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      Originally posted by jeffnhiscars View Post
      ....as long as you can mount it
      Are offering to help a brother out, or are you just teasing us?
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        Originally posted by jeffnhiscars View Post
        Buying a new Behr for what...$4xx...is, IMO a waste of money. It's an r12 compressor w r134 seals whereas you can buy a new high efficiency r134 compressor & expansion valve for half that....as long as you can mount it

        The one I got was the R134 Behr for 95.00.

        I got the compressor the car had so I could just mount it.

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          Originally posted by cory58 View Post
          Are offering to help a brother out, or are you just teasing us?
          I'm just stating a fact, but....I will look in to making these when we get back from Canada since there is clearly a need.

          Originally posted by parkerbink View Post
          The one I got was the R134 Behr for 95.00.

          I got the compressor the car had so I could just mount it.
          Used will get you by as long as you are confident it won't cause any problems. How do you know it's r134 compatible ?
          Deck Lid and soft top Shocks on hand

          Seat shocks on hand for immediate shipment
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          http://www.r3vlimited.com/board/showthread.php?t=360504
          87 Zinno Cabrio barn find 98k and still smells like a barn. Build thread http://www.r3vlimited.com/board/show...20#post3455220

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            Both items are new, their descriptions said R134.

            On the compressor, I traded at least 20 messages verifying it was the correct unit.

            http://www.ebay.com/itm/New-A-C-Comp...72.m2749.l2649

            Under item specifics:
            Refrigerant Type: R134a

            https://www.fcpeuro.com/products/bmw...09-64538391510

            Replacement serpentine flow condensor compatible for R12 and R134A A/C systems
            Last edited by parkerbink; 09-02-2017, 06:19 AM.

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              Originally posted by parkerbink View Post
              Both items are new, their descriptions said R134.

              On the compressor, I traded at least 20 messages verifying it was the correct unit.

              http://www.ebay.com/itm/New-A-C-Comp...72.m2749.l2649

              Under item specifics:
              Refrigerant Type: R134a

              https://www.fcpeuro.com/products/bmw...09-64538391510

              Replacement serpentine flow condensor compatible for R12 and R134A A/C systems
              It says "Sanden 508" so its not a Behr compressor so you will need to find mounts for it. It also says serpentine belt.

              Why didnt you just get a PF condensor for the same $$ ?
              Deck Lid and soft top Shocks on hand

              Seat shocks on hand for immediate shipment
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              http://www.r3vlimited.com/board/showthread.php?t=360504
              87 Zinno Cabrio barn find 98k and still smells like a barn. Build thread http://www.r3vlimited.com/board/show...20#post3455220

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                The Behr is the condenser.

                I got the same compressor it had.

                2 Grooves Pulley

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                  Deck Lid and soft top Shocks on hand

                  Seat shocks on hand for immediate shipment
                  https://www.r3vlimited.com/board/sho...86#post4944786
                  Alice the Time Capsule
                  http://www.r3vlimited.com/board/showthread.php?t=360504
                  87 Zinno Cabrio barn find 98k and still smells like a barn. Build thread http://www.r3vlimited.com/board/show...20#post3455220

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                    Is this a problem? I read PAG is bad for ex r12 systems.

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                      It's a huge problem since mixing them will ruin your system. That's an r134 compressor
                      Deck Lid and soft top Shocks on hand

                      Seat shocks on hand for immediate shipment
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                      Alice the Time Capsule
                      http://www.r3vlimited.com/board/showthread.php?t=360504
                      87 Zinno Cabrio barn find 98k and still smells like a barn. Build thread http://www.r3vlimited.com/board/show...20#post3455220

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                        It is the same compressor that was there, the deed is done, the expansion valve & condensor that came out were the same, ac is back, only thing is the Gates 7328 that was in there was too small. To get the ac charged I had to use my power steering belt although it is slightly larger (slightly loose).

                        What belt are people using with the Sanden compressor?

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                          It's hard to see but the compressor seems to have a wobble. Do I need to contact the seller?

                          Because it's a video it won't let me do anything but post the link. Sorry

                          https://www.flickr.com/photos/946846...posted-public/

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                            Just an FYI for you guys that do not want to convert their system. You can use HC-12a which is legally obtained and compatible with R-12. Beats the hell out of flushing a system and converting to a less efficient gas.


                            "HC-12a, also called ES-12a, OZ-12a, and Hydrocarbon Blend B, is a "drop-in" replacement refrigerant for Freon-12. It is considered nearly non-ozone-depleting. The mixture can be used in refrigeration systems designed for R-12. HC-12a provides better cooling than an R-12 system retrofitted to R-134a, with much greater energy efficiency as well. Unlike R-134a, HC-12a is completely compatible with the hoses and oils used in R-12 systems, making the conversion much easier to accomplish. HC-12a is also patent-free due to its non-synthetic nature."

                            https://www.amazon.com/Cans-REDTEK-R...eywords=HC+12a
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                              is it worth replacing the aux fan when doing a Nissens PF condenser?

                              is it a 14" or 16" SPAL pusher required, and how much more air does it move compared to the stock aux?

                              any specific models that make mounting easy?
                              89 E30 325is Lachs Silber - currently M20B31, M20B33 in the works, stroked to the hilt...

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                                Originally posted by digger View Post
                                is it worth replacing the aux fan when doing a Nissens PF condenser?

                                is it a 14" or 16" SPAL pusher required, and how much more air does it move compared to the stock aux?

                                any specific models that make mounting easy?
                                My build thread has a detailed Spal installation but the Photobucket pics are gone. Some use the 16" but I think it's too big so went with a 14". IIRC on low it may have slightly less capacity than a stock fan but I run it jumped somots def pushing enough air with not nearly as much noise. In short, a good upgrade.

                                To mount it I did mod 2 of the 3 brackets. 1 I twisted 90 degrees and one I drilled out the rivet and reversed it. I also bought a SPAL pigtail so the entire assembly is removable without removing the valance.
                                Deck Lid and soft top Shocks on hand

                                Seat shocks on hand for immediate shipment
                                https://www.r3vlimited.com/board/sho...86#post4944786
                                Alice the Time Capsule
                                http://www.r3vlimited.com/board/showthread.php?t=360504
                                87 Zinno Cabrio barn find 98k and still smells like a barn. Build thread http://www.r3vlimited.com/board/show...20#post3455220

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