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  • The_Glory
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    Assembly_60. ETK_51_Body equipment. Protective bar

    Finally, all the black door trims are painted, including the door moldings.
    Moldings were installed on all E30s, except M3. There are three options:
    1. Chrome - black molding with a chrome insert.
    Protective molding


    2. Black - black molding with a black insert.
    Protective bar schwarz


    3. Black - black molding without insert.
    Protective bar schwarz


    Before restyling, the first type was installed in the basic configuration, and the second type was installed in the "shadow line" option. The third type was installed after restyling in the basic configuration.
    Fastening in all three types of moldings is similar.
    In my case - the second type - "shadow line". Accordingly, the moldings are painted in black semi-matte color.


    Detail Home - left and right front fender molding. And here's a small "kolkhoz" :) In the section about turn signals, I already wrote that I don't really like the original side turn signals, so I won't install them. But there will be turn indicators on the wings. Well, here they are - turn indicators from the E38, installed also, as on the E38 - in the molding of the front wing.


    I like the look of this option much more than the original lights in a huge housing above the molding. It looks more neat and almost imperceptible. Not according to the "canons", of course, but at least a little "kolkhoz" should be somewhere! :) Especially since I installed them a long time ago.
    Detail Forum - left and right front door molding.
    Detail Blogs - left and right rear door molding. And again a little "kolkhoz" or "styling" - cataphots on the moldings :) But it was done before me, the previous owner.


    I like them too. I don't know what they are from, but their shape and size are perfect for moldings! Maybe it's some kind of "aftermarket"... They have some kind of PS and PD marking.


    And the shape and size of the E38 turn signals are perfect for them. This is what inspired me to install them.


    Glued on double-sided tape - as if they should be here! :)


    Now about fasteners. In ETK, in this section, there is a complete error and delusion in terms of the number of all details. Therefore, I will write the correct number of all fasteners for a 4-door sedan.
    Part No. 9 - tip (51 12 1 867 907) - 2 pcs. on each side.


    Please note that the two wing molding mounting clips come together with the molding under the same ETK number and cannot be ordered separately. Although, one rear clip is easily removed from the molding - you can see it in the photo above.

    Part No. 5 - tip (51 13 1 916 449) - 2 pcs. on each side, or 1 pc. for each door.
    Part No. 6 - M4 plastic nut (41 33 5 480 120) - 2 pcs. on each side, or 1 pc. for each door.
    Parts No. 5 and No. 6 are placed on the outer studs of the door moldings.
    Part No. 7 - bar clamp (51 13 1 876 128) - 2 pcs. on each side, or 1 pc. for each door. They are placed on the edge of the door moldings. New such clips are slightly different from the old ones, but they hold well.
    Part No. 8 - bracket (51 13 1 829 904) - 3 pcs. on each side, or 2 pcs. on the front door and 1 pc. to the back door. They are placed on the middle part of the door moldings. New such clips were very poorly held in the door, so I had to install all the old clips from donor doors.

    The photo clearly shows the location of the fasteners.
    Front door:


    Back door:


    We install all the clips on the wings and doors.


    Wing:


    Front door:


    Back door:


    The end clips on the door (#7) are installed "mirror". Front door:


    Back door - the other way:


    Now we install moldings. On the wing, the molding simply snaps tightly into Albums lugs.


    The door moldings are first put into the grooves of the extreme clips Visitor Messages at an angle to the door, and then smoothly pressed and snapped onto the clips Private Messages At the same time, the extreme pins of the moldings must fall into the tips No. 5. From the inside of the door, a plastic nut No. 6 is screwed onto the pin, and it presses the edge of the molding.
    Nut on the rear end of the front door molding:


    Nut on the front end of the rear door molding:


    Moldings are installed.




    Turns and cataphotes somewhat resemble American "sidemarkers" ;)​

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  • roguetoaster
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    I'd venture that SA cars may have gone to that style of panel to mitigate glue separation on the ROW cover, or maybe it was just less expensive. Nonetheless, very cool!

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  • The_Glory
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    Collection_59. ETK_51_Body equipment. Lining of the luggage compartment lid

    So, we finish with trunk linings. It remains to install only the lining of the trunk lid.

    Trunk lid trim




    The lining of the trunk lid was not part of the basic configuration of the car, but was placed as additional equipment. I looked for her for a long time, but I could not find her. We make fiberglass replicas, but they are so crooked and scary that I didn't want to put one on my car, let alone glue it on sealant. And one day I was lucky - my friend dropped the seller's contacts, and he was very close by. Without thinking long, I went the next day and bought this skin. In addition, it is in perfect condition and at a reasonable price. Only a few clips were missing, I ordered new ones.
    Part No. 1 - lining of the luggage compartment cover (51 49 1 916 246).
    Part Forum - not used.*
    Part No. 3 - bracket (51 41 1 870 718) - 14 pcs.



    Simply put on the clips. But, as it turned out, not everything is so simple in my case!


    When I applied the skin to the cover, I was very surprised - the uppermost clips fell into the large technological holes, and the middle ones rested against the metal... The side and lower ones fell into the holes normally. Amazingly. I went looking for an answer to this at ETK. And here's what it turned out - the skin was available only from September 1986. Moreover, for its installation, changes were made to the design of the cover - as it turned out, they are of two types! The post-September 1986 covers have fewer large process holes, and six holes for the upper trim clips. So, the "bolt-on" cladding is only on such a cover. And what is the irony of fate - I bought such a cover, but it did not have holes for the spoiler, so I decided to keep mine so as not to bother with drilling. You can see the difference in the photo.


    Well, it was not possible to outwit fate! I didn't want to drill holes for the spoiler before painting, so I had to drill holes for the trim after painting! :) It was possible, of course, to paint and rearrange the second cover. :) But I decided to drill anyway.


    But I drilled three holes, and three more fell into large holes. Do not brew them now! )) I had to come up with something - I picked up rubber plugs in the exact size in a car shop, and made holes for clips in them. On the first plug I tried drilling and cutting through the rubber, and then I tried burning the holes with a soldering iron - it was much better, although there was a lot of smelly smoke. This is such a "life hack" :)








    Now the paneling is normally in its place - the rubber clips also hold well.


    The appearance has become much better. But the cutouts for the lighting somehow don't look very good... I don't understand why they didn't make larger rectangular holes for repositioning the lamps in the paneling...


    It remains to install a tool box, a jack and a spare wheel in the trunk.

    *
    P.S.
    A few words about another very interesting skin.
    I was wondering what part Forum is on the diagram in ETK. And I found her in Africa! :)
    This is a decorative overlay (51 49 1 916 249) on the lock bracket. In the same section there is also a panel with a different number (51 49 1 916 644). Both of these parts were for some reason only available for the South African market, but are no longer available to order. I found a photo of this skin, judging by the website address on the glass, the car is from Africa:


    It looks just gorgeous! There is also an overlay on the lock bracket. In addition, it is also for a large tool box. I will look for it in Africa! )

    P.P.S.
    Finally, all the black door linings are painted, the details of the electroplated door handles have also been ready for a long time - I can completely assemble the doors.​

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  • The_Glory
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    Originally posted by jjjjj
    i just spent three hours with this thread for the first time. wow. you sir are quite the man with a vision and with tools. i'll be coming back, meanwhile you just keep doing you.
    Thanks, I'll try)

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  • The_Glory
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    Originally posted by roguetoaster
    I just love this thread, can always count on it for something new to me just about every time I open it.
    I think there will be something new next time too ;) At least, I haven't come across such a thing...

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  • jjjjj
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    i just spent three hours with this thread for the first time. wow. you sir are quite the man with a vision and with tools. i'll be coming back, meanwhile you just keep doing you.

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  • roguetoaster
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    I just love this thread, can always count on it for something new to me just about every time I open it.

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  • The_Glory
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    To complete the assembly of the trunk, it is necessary to install the rear seat belts. So, the section
    Spare parts+accessories (body)

    There are two types of seat belts.
    The first - until September 1986 - with small buckles, the rear straps are installed in the trunk under the shelf and with an additional attachment on the rear roof rack. The fastening bracket on the racks was metal, and later plastic. The plastic one had a simpler attachment and a more aesthetic appearance. The rear middle belt is secured to the left under the rear seat.
    The second - after September 1986 - with large buckles, the rear straps are installed on the shelf, without additional fastening on the rear roof rack. The rear middle belt is attached to the right under the rear seat.
    Accordingly, seat backs and rear shelves are also different and not interchangeable. But buckles of the second type can be locked in a lock of the first type, but not vice versa.
    Front belts for 2- and 4-door sedans have different fasteners. How do I know that? Because he collected a whole collection of belts! ) I used to have front belts of the second type, and no rear belts at all. I bought the rear belts of the first type a long time ago, and the same front belts were given to me by a friend. I bought the rear middle one recently. So I put together a complete set of 1985 belts - just the thing! Unwound them all, and cleaned and washed them well.




    So, I install the belts.

    Collection_58. ETK_72_Spare parts + accessories (body). Seat belts

    Front seat belt for 4-door cars




    November 1985


    Item Home - Autoflug Belt Reels - Left and Right Symmetrical.


    Part Forum - Autoflug locks - left and right are the same.


    But there is another manufacturer - Repa.


    And the difference is this - the Autoflug buttons remain red even after 40 years, while the Repa buttons have completely lost their color.


    First I bought Repa locks and then had to buy Autoflug to make all the locks red. Although, locks of the second type of Autoflug come across both red and with a completely lost color.


    A collection of locks. By the way, I still need a lock with a seat belt sensor to fully implement this "American" option. You will probably have to look for it in America...there are none here...


    Although the belts were thoroughly cleaned, they did not wind very well. Therefore, I decided to lubricate the mechanism and tighten the spring.
    First the right. The cover of the mechanism is easily removed.


    The spring cover must be removed very carefully - the spring may pop out, and it will not be easy to wind it. Hands can also be injured. Now I know :) Lubricated and wound an extra turn of the spring.


    The same on the left side.




    Now about belt fastening.
    Front safety belt accessories




    All seat belt mounting bolts have a specific 7/16" thread.
    Part No. 1 - bolt (72 11 1 904 775) - 2 pcs.
    Part Forum - sleeve (72 11 1 848 465) - 2 pcs.
    Part #3, Groups - bolt 7/16X20 (72 11 1 861 932) - 6 pcs.
    Part No. 7 - washer (72 11 1 808 673) - 4 pcs.
    Part No. 8 - tension washer (72 11 1 808 672) - 2 pcs.
    Part No. 9 - cover (72 11 1 904 665) - 2 pcs.
    Part #10 - not used.
    Part No. 11 - button (72 11 1 950 829) - 2 pcs.
    Part No. 12 - button (72 11 1 917 406) - 2 pcs.

    The coil of the front belt is fixed in the niche of the middle rack. Only in this position can the belt be unwound. The belt clip is attached to the upper hole on the rack, and is closed with a cover.



    The bracket of the third point of attachment of the belt, and the lock is attached to the seat. Therefore, it will be after their installation.


    For the front belts of the E30, there was a very rare option - height adjustment of the upper fastening of the bracket.
    Belt adjuster

    I saw it only once in a photo on the Internet. A really rare thing for an E30. On the middle rack, there is one additional hole for its fastening. The bracket is attached to this device and can be adjusted to different positions in height. It would be interesting to find such a thing...

    Now the rear straps.
    Rear safety belt




    August 1985


    December 1985 (average)


    Detail Home - belt spools - left and right look the same. Marked with stickers L and R.


    But they have a difference inside.
    Disassembled and lubricated similarly to the front ones. I did not tighten the spring on the rear ones, they began to wind up well anyway.
    Left.


    Right.


    Spring.


    Now about belt fastening.
    Rear safety belt accessories




    All seat belt mounting bolts have a specific 7/16" thread.
    Part No. 1 - bolt (72 11 1 904 775) - 2 pcs.
    Part #2, Blogs - not used. Used for belts with steel staples.
    Part No. 4 - washer (72 11 1 808 673) - 4 pcs.
    Part No. 5 - sleeve (72 11 1 848 465) - 2 pcs.
    Part No. 6 - bolt 7/16X20 (72 11 1 861 932) - 6 pcs.
    Part No. 7 - cover (72 11 1 904 665) - 2 pcs.
    Part Private Messages - left (51 46 1 916 979) and right (51 46 1 916 980) covers - 2 pcs.
    Part Albums - not used. It is used for belts of the second type.

    The rear belt coil is mounted in the trunk, on special brackets under the shelf. Only in this position can the belt be unwound.



    The belt is passed through the hole in the shelf and the plastic cover, the belt clip is attached to the rear rack, and closed with the cover.


    The bracket of the third point of attachment of the belt, and the lock is attached under the rear seat.



    The middle belt should be attached under the rear seat on the left. But I have the seat and rear shelf for the second type of belt where the middle belt is on the right. That's why I installed it there. It seems even more logical to me - so the middle and side belts will not cross. I don't understand why the factory made the opposite...


    The middle belt does not wind up, but will be fixed with a buckle in a special plastic cover on the interior shelf.


    So, the seat belts are installed, the side panels of the trunk can be installed.



    Next will probably be about the lining of the trunk lid.​

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  • The_Glory
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    Originally posted by D.Martijn
    Is that plastic cover inside of the A pillar standard? Never seen one of those
    Yes, this is a standard cover - left (51 71 1 916 123) and right (51 71 1 916 124). I recently wrote about them here in the appropriate section.


    But, if the standard central lock is installed, then the left cover is not installed - in its place is the ECU of the central lock.
    If there is a hatch, you need to break out special segments for drain hoses on the covers.

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  • D.Martijn
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    Is that plastic cover inside of the A pillar standard? Never seen one of those

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  • The_Glory
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    Apparently, the brackets for the interior lamps are a very important detail - they were not just separated into a separate unit, but also duplicated in the sunroof section! :) So, let's go to this section.
    Sliding roof and folding top

    In fact, I decided to completely finish the trunk assembly - install the drain hoses from the hatch, the rear seat belts, so that I can finally install the side panels of the trunk. I also start with hoses - again from the last subdivision.

    Collection_57. ETK_54_Soft cover of the lifting-sliding hatch cover

    Lifting-sliding roof cover hatch




    Part No. 9 (No. 1+No. 4) is a soft casing of the lifting-sliding hatch cover (54 12 1 924 517). No longer available to order. My car came with a manual sunroof from the factory, so I guess this cover in the front part of it was trimmed a bit to fit the electric sunroof. By the way, he is not very soft, but that is probably from old age.
    Part No. 2 - a soft casing of the hatch manual drive mechanism (54 12 1 879 148). The hatch is not used with an electric drive.
    Part No. 3 - sound insulation of the hatch cover (54 12 1 906 809). I have it in good condition, just slightly tinted :) That's why I left it as it is.


    Part No. 5 - rear hoses for draining water (51 73 1 947 958) - 2 pcs. In ETK, their length is 1690MM, but in fact I have them 1350MM long. We run the hoses from the trunk along the rear rack of the roof to the drain pipes of the hatch. Just in case, I installed them on the gasket sealant.


    Part No. 6 - clamp (54 12 1 874 589) - 4 pcs. Metal clip for fixing the hose inside the roof rack. I only had two, so I ordered two more. The number is already different (17 12 7 634 089), but the clip looks the same, only it is light in color.


    The clip is installed on the hose and is attached to a special hole on the rear rack of the roof. But I was in a hurry to glue the noise insulation of the rack, so I had to tear it off a little. It's good that she stuck to it again later.


    Another clip fixes the hose to the rib on the wheel arch. Next, the hose passes under the central locking actuator bracket and the end of the hose is firmly inserted into the clip on the rear fender ventilation grill.


    Similarly to the left.


    In this way, the water from the hatch is brought out under the rear bumper.

    Part No. 7 - front hoses for draining water (51 73 1 922 405) - 2 pcs. In ETK, their length is 1700MM. They are not in the general photo, because they have been installed for a long time. I also installed them on top of the gasket sealant.


    Next, the hose runs tightly along the front roof rack and exits into the speaker niche, where it is pressed by the plastic cover I mentioned earlier.


    And that's all. Water from the hatch pours right into the threshold! In my opinion, this is one of the most ridiculous engineering decisions in the E30! That is why all E30s with a hatch in the front part have holes in the floor and rotten thresholds. Of course, I decided to fix it - at the stage of bodywork, this hose was brought out under the front fender and fixed with body sealant.


    This is done on many cars. Water will flow on the lower fender mount, but it's still better than on the threshold and in the cabin!

    Part No. 8 - again the same brackets for interior lamps (54 12 1 884 483). Last time I already said - the 3D copy turned out to be better than the original. Already installed together with lamps.


    The cover is fixed to the roof with metal brackets that bend.


    In the front part, there is a cutout for an electric sunroof.


    Everything is installed.
    Last edited by The_Glory; 05-22-2023, 11:26 PM.

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  • The_Glory
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    Originally posted by roguetoaster
    Additional light in an E30 is a very smart upgrade, LEDs also seem to help if you can get the right ones.
    I decided to leave the usual lamps. Just replaced them all with new ones.
    By the way, I did repair the contact on the interior light switch-off timer sensor. It turned out not bad enough, in my opinion. And I hope that now it will work for a long time. Later I will show a photo of my idea ;)​

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  • roguetoaster
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    Additional light in an E30 is a very smart upgrade, LEDs also seem to help if you can get the right ones.

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  • The_Glory
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    Continuing the previous record, we move on to the section
    General electrical equipment of the car

    Collection_56. ETK_61_Different switches

    Various switches




    Part Home - handbrake lamp switch (61 31 1 369 771).
    Part Forum - screw M4X10-Z5 - 1 pc.
    I installed it together with the lever a long time ago.


    Detail Blogs - door switch button. If there are electric windows, a switch with double contacts (61 31 1 370 805) is installed on the front door. A conventional switch (61 31 1 368 430) is installed on the rear door and trunk lid.
    Part No. 4 - self-tapping screw ST3.9X9.5 (07 11 9 902 216) - 5 pcs.
    Part No. 9 - front door switch button stop (61 31 1 370 695) - 2 pcs.
    The front switches are screwed with self-tapping screws, the stop is simply clicked into the hole in the door.


    The connectors are located on the main wiring harness in the niches of the front speakers. The window comfort relay and other electrical options are connected to the second contact. I will write about this later.
    The rear door switch buttons connect to the wiring for the interior lights that I wrote about in the previous post. The connectors are located on the main wiring harness, below the middle roof rack. The wiring is laid inside the rack and attached to it with metal clips from below near the seat belt coil.


    But from above, near the ceiling


    The same on the other side.



    A separate wire goes from the wiring connector under the back seat to the door switch button.


    We pass the wire through the wheel arch and connect it to the rear door switch.


    Screw the switch to the body with a self-tapping screw.


    Similarly on the other side.
    The trunk lid switch remains. In the previous entry, I already wrote that the basic equipment included one trunk light shade, or two as an additional option. In the photo, the "ground" wire of the switch is the lower basic wire for one lamp, and the upper one, with a double terminal, for connecting two lamps.


    The basic option for one lampshade


    Just two contacts per ceiling.


    Since I have two lampshades, I made the power wiring for the second lampshade.


    In addition, I have a standard alarm installed, which must also be connected to the switch button.


    Therefore, we first connect the alarm system, then connect the wire for two ceiling lights and their power supply to its corresponding connector.


    Everything is installed.


    Parts No. 5-8 are intended for automatic transmission, so they are not used.

    Another subdivision with the same name:
    Various switches


    All these parts are for special cars, probably for the police. I don't have a police car, so I don't have them and there's nothing to write about :)​

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  • The_Glory
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    Assembly_55. ETK_63_Different Lights

    We continue the section
    Lighting devices
    It has three subdivisions with the same name.

    Various lights




    For some reason, only one item - No. 20 - has been singled out for this subdivision. This is a fiberglass bracket (54 12 1 884 483) of the interior lamp. Perhaps such attention to it is due to the fact that it is practically impossible to find it whole! :) Both of my brackets have already been glued more than once, and broken again. I glued them together again, but they broke again, even before installing them... You can order new ones, but not cheap, and most likely they will break soon anyway. Very poor design and material. There are no analogues. So I enlisted the help of a teammate and he made a 3D model of these brackets, with improved mounting, and printed them out of more flexible plastic. Compared to standard:


    Now they are firmly installed, and easily and without damage removed. A great alternative to the original, even better.


    The next subsection is already about the lamps themselves.
    Various lights




    Part No. 1 - interior lamp (63 31 1 367 353) - 2 pcs. But probably everyone knows that the interior light is not very good in the front of the E30, so I installed a third lamp near the interior mirror a long time ago, and connected it parallel to the left lamp. That's why I have three of them. By the way, if you look closely, two are HELLA, and the third is from some other manufacturer, but outwardly they are the same.


    Item Forum - 12V 10W lamp

    I already mentioned the wiring earlier - it is the same on both sides. In addition, I made a similar wiring with additional connectors for the third lamp. On the left, we connect the home-made wiring to the standard one, and then connect both lamps.
    Left:


    Then from the left, front:


    Right to standard wiring:


    We insert the side panels into the brackets, and the front panel will then be installed in the electric sunroof panel instead of the plug.



    Detail No. 3 - the button for the light switch of the box for small things.
    Part Groups - not used.
    Item No. 5 - 12V 5W lamp. I bought it, but then I realized that I didn't need it. Although, it can be installed in the button cartridge, but it will shine inside the torpedo :) Apparently it is for other BMW models.
    Part No. 6 - trunk lighting lampshade (63 31 6 961 985).
    Item No. 7 - 12V 5W lamp.
    In the basic configuration, one ceiling light is installed, but there is a place for installing another ceiling light in the trunk lid. I guess it was some kind of option, something like "advanced lighting package"... I installed two shades a long time ago.



    Item No. 8 - portable rechargeable flashlight (82 11 9 413 147).
    Part Albums - glass with a lens (82 11 9 413 148)
    Detail No. 10 - lamp.
    The flashlight is in a special charging slot, in a box for small things. The white flashlight is rare and is no longer available to order. On newer BMW models, it is black, available to order, but does not fit the charging connector for the E30. But, if desired, it can be replaced together with the connector. I have the original one for the E30 - white, but as in most cases, the battery in it no longer works. Batteries will need to be replaced.
    Item No. 11 - a portable lamp. It has not been available for order for a long time.
    Part No. 12 - license plate light shade (63 26 1 372 763) - 2 pcs.
    Part No. 13 - rubber sealing gasket (63 26 1 354 034) - 2 pcs.
    If you order by HELLA number, the lampshades come complete with rubber gaskets.


    Part No. 14 - insert for self-tapping screw ST3,9-4 (07 12 9 925 707) - 4 pcs. It is necessary to order such original mortgages. They are specific, shorter than usual.


    At first, I tried to install standard ST3.9 sockets, but the holes on them do not match the holes on the ceiling lights. So I had to order and wait for the original ones. You can see the difference in the photo.


    The original mortgages fit perfectly.


    Part No. 15 - plastic insert for self-tapping screw (63 26 1 378 067) - 4 pcs. Apparently this is a mistake in ETK again - I also ordered them, but they do not fit at all instead of mortgage E30 Classified Forums Although, maybe there was a back panel option with holes for these mortgages.
    Part No. 16 - self-tapping screw ST3.9X13 (07 11 9 907 720) - 4 pcs.

    The previous owner of my car for some reason welded the holes for the license plate lights. It's good that the wiring remained - I connected them and they acted as an additional trunk light :) And finally, I will have a license plate light.


    Detail #17, 18 - not used.
    Part No. 19 - block with spare lamps. No longer available to order. If I find it, I will buy it.

    Another subdivision:
    Various lights


    There is also only one detail here - No. 1 (63 31 0 138 864). Portable rechargeable flashlight. It has not been available to order for a long time. I would probably buy it too if I ever find it... ;)​

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