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  • ForcedFirebird
    R3V OG
    • Feb 2007
    • 8300

    #181
    Originally posted by digger
    looks a little soft for an s52 with forged slugs, cams and headwork??
    This graph was posted for people who are buying "off the shelf components". This was a baseline pull with the TRM chip prior to custom dyno tuning. While yes, the peak didn't change much, but under the curve was well complimented, and wtq was amplified :)
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    • ForcedFirebird
      R3V OG
      • Feb 2007
      • 8300

      #182
      Sounds!!!

      Last edited by ForcedFirebird; 11-16-2022, 03:11 PM.
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      • Bimmerman325i
        R3V OG
        • Dec 2007
        • 6854

        #183
        That is amazing!!!!

        You have me debating between doing ITBs on my E36 and buying an E30 and building a wild M20 car, leaning heavily towards the M20.
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        • Reichart12
          R3VLimited
          • Aug 2012
          • 2145

          #184
          Oh man Im so jealous. I might have to vacation down to Florida to have you work some tune magic on my engine.

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          • nando
            Moderator
            • Nov 2003
            • 34827

            #185
            dang, 211whp is pretty impressive for only 2.8l! Junkyard M50s indeed..

            What trumpets to the RHD kits use? I'm looking for trumpets on my N52 but I haven't really settled on anything.
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            • SkiFree
              R3VLimited
              • Jun 2011
              • 2766

              #186
              Awesome work John. M20 has been underrated for too long.
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              • ForcedFirebird
                R3V OG
                • Feb 2007
                • 8300

                #187
                Originally posted by nando
                dang, 211whp is pretty impressive for only 2.8l! Junkyard M50s indeed..

                What trumpets to the RHD kits use? I'm looking for trumpets on my N52 but I haven't really settled on anything.
                It's not over yet ;) Injector DC was 100% by ~5k. You can see the AFR's go lean after there, at 7k they were at 126.6%. Not sure I want to try 24lb and all the 33 and 36's we have didn't pass a flow test.

                Originally posted by SkiFree
                Awesome work John. M20 has been underrated for too long.
                Thanks! It sounds so amazing, video does it no justice. This is the customer referred to us by IE :)
                Last edited by ForcedFirebird; 01-22-2016, 11:17 AM.
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                • Good & Tight
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                  • Apr 2004
                  • 2057

                  #188
                  Impressive #'s Johns..!!!! Sounds incredible in person. I have a set of 850cc injectors if you need.
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                  • whodwho
                    E30 Mastermind
                    • Jun 2008
                    • 1547

                    #189
                    Very nice! The video doesn't do justice to the sounds of ITBs

                    You still have cam timing and trumpet lengths you can play with?
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                    • ForcedFirebird
                      R3V OG
                      • Feb 2007
                      • 8300

                      #190
                      Probably could use an adjustable gear with the block and head being shaved, but it doesn't have one. Probably just going to keep it simple, put larger injectors in and call it a day.
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                      • whodwho
                        E30 Mastermind
                        • Jun 2008
                        • 1547

                        #191
                        Doesn't look like it needs much more than that! 8^)
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                        • ForcedFirebird
                          R3V OG
                          • Feb 2007
                          • 8300

                          #192
                          It does. 100% duty at 5500 and you can see the graph go lean after. :(

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                          • ForcedFirebird
                            R3V OG
                            • Feb 2007
                            • 8300

                            #193
                            Originally posted by Good & Tight
                            Impressive #'s Johns..!!!! Sounds incredible in person. I have a set of 850cc injectors if you need.
                            Thinking about 36lb to give some room, 850c would be a bit overkill lol.

                            24's might do it, but want to leave some margin.
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                            • digger
                              R3V Elite
                              • Nov 2005
                              • 5909

                              #194
                              I'd get 30lb it didn't go any leaner than 14 so probably doesnt need the 126% pulse width duty that was used/requested in the tune.
                              The only reason for higher would be to ensure the injection event happens entirely within a window on the intake stroke when doing injection timing in relation to cam duration
                              Last edited by digger; 01-22-2016, 01:30 PM.
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                              • ForcedFirebird
                                R3V OG
                                • Feb 2007
                                • 8300

                                #195
                                It did go over 14 a few instances. Looking through the logs now. Was wondering why we got a stutter a couple times at high RPM. We only did about 7 pulls and a couple of them weren't full. There's a couple places the duty was much higher and the AFR's spike as if the injector just stopped firing.

                                EDIT: Found one log to be at 146.2% DC lol
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