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  • digger
    R3V OG
    • Nov 2005
    • 6137

    #166
    Originally posted by 88Sedan
    Those are some of the highest m20 numbers I have seen. I want to know every detail of this motor! I've never heard of an m20 diesel block before or anyone using 140mm rods in an m20.
    MM were using 140.5mm rods 20 years ago. The diesel block is an m21 and it is where the forged 81mm crank comes from that Alpina used in their engines, and where the the high flow oil pumps that are sometimes mentioned come from.
    89 E30 325is Lachs Silber - currently M20B31, M20B33 in the works, stroked to the hilt...

    new build thread http://www.r3vlimited.com/board/showthread.php?t=317505

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    • AliBOSS
      Member
      • Oct 2019
      • 42

      #167
      It's not an 85.8mm stroke but a 3.0 crankshaft from an m54 that we balanced and lightened. So we are talking about 89.6mm

      The diesel block we used the block only and adapted it to accept the 885 head. We didn't use bigger pistons, because the diesel block wouldn't support more than 84mm of boring from previous experience.

      The block is actually longer that's why we used it, also a lot of modifications and grinding has been done to be able to rotate the crank without the rods hitting the cylinder wall.

      Also we are using one of the worst pump gas quality wich is the only available.

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      • 2mAn
        Señior Mod
        • Aug 2010
        • 20807

        #168
        MrBurgundy I expect to see some new dyno plots from you here soon, 200WHP or BUST...
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        • 2mAn
          Señior Mod
          • Aug 2010
          • 20807

          #169
          Here are some stock 2.7i dyno results from my old setup. Overall, pretty solid and expected for a 'junkyard' motor/ combo. I wonder how much this could've gotten cleaned up with either a chip-tune, or an aftermarket EFI.



          Here is the dyno of the '2.8i' post installation after removing the 2.7i. Bottom end is an eta with the 81mm crankshaft and some 10:1 Ross Racing pistons that were sourced from (I believe) Ireland Engineering years ago. Unknown camshaft and no real headwork. Camshaft is mild because this is a street motor he built for a client a while ago. I am dreaming of ITBs for the future... but for now I will enjoy the nice bump



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          • MrBurgundy
            R3V Degenerate
            • Mar 2012
            • 5555

            #170
            bro if i cant get 200whp out of a higher compression 2.7i w itbs imma push it off a cliff
            Current Collection: 1990 325is // 1987 325i Vert // 2003 525i 5spd // 1985 380SL // 1992 Ranger 5spd // 1973 Porsche 914 // 2005 Avalanche // 2024 Honda Grom SP // 2024 Yamaha XSR700 // 2025 Jeep Wrangler Rubicon X

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            • digger
              R3V OG
              • Nov 2005
              • 6137

              #171
              Originally posted by MrBurgundy
              bro if i cant get 200whp out of a higher compression 2.7i w itbs imma push it off a cliff
              Just do it properly and should be ok
              89 E30 325is Lachs Silber - currently M20B31, M20B33 in the works, stroked to the hilt...

              new build thread http://www.r3vlimited.com/board/showthread.php?t=317505

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              • moatilliatta
                R3V OG
                • Feb 2005
                • 6150

                #172
                Originally posted by AliBOSS
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                Apples are not Apples, Get back to us on a dynoJet corrected in SAE.

                Your 5252 cross is not at 5252.

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                • digger
                  R3V OG
                  • Nov 2005
                  • 6137

                  #173
                  Originally posted by moatilliatta

                  Apples are not Apples, Get back to us on a dynoJet corrected in SAE.

                  Your 5252 cross is not at 5252.
                  agree on using a meaningful point of reference such as DJ, dyno dynamics or Maha which cant just fudge like many others.

                  the 5252 cross doesnt occur because the y-axis scales for power and torque differ
                  89 E30 325is Lachs Silber - currently M20B31, M20B33 in the works, stroked to the hilt...

                  new build thread http://www.r3vlimited.com/board/showthread.php?t=317505

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