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    You know what came out of the lean times of the 70s and early 80s? The E30.

    Maybe, just maybe, manufacturers will be forced to produce quality affordable vehicles when faced with this competitive global market and perhaps declining disposable income.

    But who am I kidding, they'll probably just make more bloated cut rate crap and market it as premium so people can feel validated that they're more successful that the person next to them in traffic.

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      Originally posted by roguetoaster View Post
      The E30.
      Wasn't the E30 convertible a $30,000 vehicle in 1990?
      I guess you could buy a small apartment in Germany for $30,000 in 1990.

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        Originally posted by varg View Post

        I hope they have been tanking, have you seen what they've been producing? A bunch of enormous ugly crap. Like, stunningly ugly. It's hard to believe the same company that made the E24 makes the stuff I see on the roads and at car shows now. I ultimately have no idea if their ugly cars are causing poor sales or even if their profits are truly "not good" but I can only hope their ugly cars are biting them in the ass so they'll change direction.
        nailed it.
        Originally posted by priapism
        My girl don't know shit, but she bakes a mean cupcake.
        Originally posted by shameson
        Usually it's best not to know how much money you have into your e30

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          Originally posted by rturbo 930 View Post
          BMW and Lexus seem to be in competition to see who can make the ugliest vehicles. I don't know what's going on in their design departments, but its bad.

          Also, anyone notice E30s getting more attention lately? Seems like my E30 is getting way more attention this year than it has previously.
          If you mean attention from people on the street, then yes, same here in the Philly area. I have been getting more thumbs up from people, but especially more people in modern BMW's rolling down the window at stop lights to make a comment about my ride. It's been fun!
          R135 /// 1990 Alpinweiß II 325is
          └┼┼┘ /// 1993 Black/Black Convertible (sold)
          ..24

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            Originally posted by varg View Post
            I hope they have been tanking, have you seen what they've been producing? A bunch of enormous ugly crap. Like, stunningly ugly. It's hard to believe the same company that made the E24 makes the stuff I see on the roads and at car shows now. I ultimately have no idea if their ugly cars are causing poor sales or even if their profits are truly "not good" but I can only hope their ugly cars are biting them in the ass so they'll change direction.
            You wouldn't pay $112K for this beauty? LOL!!! Utterly horrible

            R135 /// 1990 Alpinweiß II 325is
            └┼┼┘ /// 1993 Black/Black Convertible (sold)
            ..24

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              BMW seems to have sent the blind design head off to destroy Rolls Royce now.

              Good riddance, but some of the people coming in sound like scrubs also... the guy who butchered the Volvo SPA design language to make the polestar electric cars, someone who designed the recent Mini abominations, and two others that sound alright.





              Originally posted by priapism
              My girl don't know shit, but she bakes a mean cupcake.
              Originally posted by shameson
              Usually it's best not to know how much money you have into your e30

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                Originally posted by Aleman View Post

                If you mean attention from people on the street, then yes, same here in the Philly area. I have been getting more thumbs up from people, but especially more people in modern BMW's rolling down the window at stop lights to make a comment about my ride. It's been fun!
                All sorts of people. In the last three months or so, I've had some kid on a bike while at a gas station take a photo of it, some mom in an SUV told me she loved it, a guy in a 335i (or something) complimented it, and most recently while in traffic two little kids in their front yard started pointing at it excitedly, which I assume meant they liked it. So really the whole spectrum of people. I've never gotten this much attention in it. Seems like tastes have shifted in favor of the E30.

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                  Originally posted by rturbo 930 View Post
                  Seems like tastes have shifted in favor of the E30.
                  Glad I only have an anonymous E46 these days, which isn't a bad thing if you want to go fast.

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                    Interesting... That thread with an upset customer disappeared
                    Current Collection: 1990 325is // 1987 325i Vert // 2003 525i 5spd // 1985 380SL // 1992 Ranger 5spd // 2005 Avalanche // 2024 Honda Grom SP // 2024 Yamaha XSR700 // 2024 Jeep Gladiator Rubicon

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                      Originally posted by MrBurgundy View Post
                      Interesting... That thread with an upset customer disappeared
                      He requested it to be deleted.

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                        Originally posted by Northern View Post
                        BMW seems to have sent the blind design head off to destroy Rolls Royce now.

                        Good riddance, but some of the people coming in sound like scrubs also... the guy who butchered the Volvo SPA design language to make the polestar electric cars, someone who designed the recent Mini abominations, and two others that sound alright.

                        https://www.thedrive.com/news/bmws-d...his-fix-things
                        Massive, gaudy, high walled, slab sided cars fits rolls royce better than BMW. The new 7 series is rolls royce like in its appearance from the sides. I have seen every new BMW model multiple times, even a regular 740i is a slab sided monstrosity. The 2 series sedans look like an edgier 2010s dodge dart. The M2 is somehow both bland looking and ugly. BMW isn't alone though, the new MBs are ugly too, although it's mostly the distended looking front ends with the exaggerated grilles that do them in, they look ok from the side. Distended is a good way to describe the front and read ends of these new BMWs and MBs. They look as if you were to draw a somewhat normal car on a flat front and inflate it, the edges pull taut and don't distort as much, but the center swells, distorting the proportions. The rears look this way too, the tail lights look small and high up, leaving a huge expanse of trunk lid and bumper below and between them.

                        What does look surprisingly good in person is the new Bentley Continental GT. The polestars are ok looking for electric cars, compared with telsa motors cars which are pathologically bland, as if designed by committee and focus group to be inoffensive.

                        IG @turbovarg
                        '91 318is, M20 turbo
                        [CoTM: 4-18]
                        '94 525iT slicktop, M50B30 + S362SX-E, 600WHP DD or bust
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                            Originally posted by varg View Post
                            The polestars are ok looking for electric cars, compared with telsa motors cars which are pathologically bland, as if designed by committee and focus group to be inoffensive.

                            I just think Volvo did such a good job with the whole SPA lineup, especially the V60/V90, Wish that stuck around a little longer, and had a real ICE "Polestar" version or something. The PHEV "Polestar Engineered" stuff is cool/tempting, but the ICE front / Electric Rear powertrain seems like a control systems nightmare, and I don't think the performance figures fit the quoted 455hp/500ftlb. I also want nothing to do with a hybrid system out of warranty.

                            That said, I guess the Polestar 1 was very SPA-like, but I guess they've just evolved from there.

                            Would still love to someday pick up a well optioned non-hybrid V60 or V90 and fire a JB4 and a few mods on it, because I like my XC90 a lot for hauling family and highway use - I just wish it was a wagon.
                            Originally posted by priapism
                            My girl don't know shit, but she bakes a mean cupcake.
                            Originally posted by shameson
                            Usually it's best not to know how much money you have into your e30

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                              Did you guys know that Hemmings has auctions too?
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                                Originally posted by 2mAn View Post
                                Did you guys know that Hemmings has auctions too?
                                Didn't know, but auctions are the fun way to buy right now, or so it seems.

                                This year so far I've bought an 01 330i, an 03 Ranger, a 99 SVT Contour, a 16 Colorado, a 10 Ranger, an 01 325ci, and just today an 89 Grumman side console. All of those were from the local mostly charity auction. Total spend just over 11k including transport to my driveway, and not including the 2.5k or so in parts purchased to fix problems the vehicles.

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